Tuesday open thread

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Filed Under Open Thread on May 15 

Another primary Tuesday that matters little in the biggest race of them all. Idaho, Nebraska and Oregon all get their chance to award votes and delegates to the presumptive nominee.

Also today, Politico asks is Romney is ready for the Bain battle. Team Obama is out with their first big hit and Romney has responded with an ad of their own.

Politico also reports on Ron Paul’s tacit message to the GOP that he won’t cause trouble in Tampa. (Paul might want to send that message to his troops. In Idaho, they’re threatening to go “scorched earth.”)

Like to dive into data? Go beyond the headlines in the new NYT/CBS poll.

Most important political nugget trending? Probably rap mogul J-Jay reaffirming that he’s got Obama’s back. Whew! How could Obama have won reelection with the support of the man who wrote and performed this eloquent hit?

Comments

  • Anonymous

    Jason: Why shouldn’t Ron Paul’s people go “Scorched Earth”? When we follow the rules of the conventions, the Romney people do everything in their power to break the rules and act crazy. Just check out the OK convention this past weekend, where a Romney supporter punched a Paul supporter in the face. 

    • Anonymous

       BTW, it’s also funny that following the rules is somehow seen as disruptive, while attempting to break the rules like the establishment has done/tried to do at every state convention so far is seen as acceptable.

    • Anonymous

      Ahhh, yes. I, too, saw the vicious blow that was leveled by the frail eighty year female Romney supporter. The truth is that was probably the first time in the last 70 years that this woman punched another human being. It just goes to show how extremely annoying the Flock of Numbskulls are that they can anger an old woman into acts of violence. Even old women gets tired of being shouted down by these loons.

      • Anonymous

         That was one of the two Romney supporters who punched somebody else. Speaking of flock of numbskulls, Romney supporters are so disorganized and pathetic that even though he’s the “presumptive nominee” they can’t show up in force at state conventions and don’t know Robert’s Rules of Order. Pathetic people.

        • Anonymous

          Sucks to be you.

          • Anonymous

            Everything’s great in my life ;) Knowing you’re on the right side of history takes a certain weight off your shoulders. I do truly pity weak minded buffoons like you though.

        • Gururussell

          I have always based my choice for candidate on the level at which their supporters are able to follow “Robert’s Rules of Order”.
          I am shocked!  SHOCKED, I tell you.
          That’s it…I’m going back to Santorum.

          • Anonymous

             Gary, I know you’re being humorous but it has little to do with anything. The point is that Romney supporters are crying foul at these conventions when the Paul people are following the state GOP rules to a tee and the Romney people are actively violating the rules. It’s just amusing.

            • dw

              *sarcasm on*
              It’s called “vetting”. The candidate that can best break the rules and best break other candidates will be considered the most viable and best the GOP can offer. *sarcasm off*

              I really hope the GOP convention has a lot of fireworks and that Romney gets dethroned somehow.

              • Anonymous

                My brother works for code enforcement in a small city neighboring Houston. During recent local election, city council etc, every candidate and every party complied with the city ordinances regarding campaign signs, etc….except…for Ron Paul supporters. The man was not even on any ballot yet the Paulective violated rule after rule putting Ron Paul signs everywhere and infiltrating the local elections and town halls. They are jokes. Even the “KOOKSTER” is concerned by the kooks that are now disrupting the process in his name.

                You are right, dw. There will undoubtedly be fireworks at the Tampa convention because we can all predict that nutters will make it their mission in life to disrupt the process.

              • Anonymous

                 Once again Brian ignores reality and the fact that his war loving,bloodlusting, anti-american fellow Romney supporters have broken the rules at every state convention thus far while the Paul supporters were well prepared, followed the rules and executed successful plans.

                Once again Brian has no understanding of facts or logic. Too many drugs maybe? What ya hiding Bri bri.

  • Anonymous

    Jason: Why shouldn’t Ron Paul’s people go “Scorched Earth”? When we follow the rules of the conventions, the Romney people do everything in their power to break the rules and act crazy. Just check out the OK convention this past weekend, where a Romney supporter punched a Paul supporter in the face. 

    • Anonymous

       BTW, it’s also funny that following the rules is somehow seen as disruptive, while attempting to break the rules like the establishment has done/tried to do at every state convention so far is seen as acceptable.

    • Anonymous

      Ahhh, yes. I, too, saw the vicious blow that was leveled by the frail eighty year female Romney supporter. The truth is that was probably the first time in the last 70 years that this woman punched another human being. It just goes to show how extremely annoying the Flock of Numbskulls are that they can anger an old woman into acts of violence. Even old women gets tired of being shouted down by these loons.

      • Anonymous

         That was one of the two Romney supporters who punched somebody else. Speaking of flock of numbskulls, Romney supporters are so disorganized and pathetic that even though he’s the “presumptive nominee” they can’t show up in force at state conventions and don’t know Robert’s Rules of Order. Pathetic people.

        • Anonymous

          Sucks to be you.

          • Anonymous

            Everything’s great in my life ;) Knowing you’re on the right side of history takes a certain weight off your shoulders. I do truly pity weak minded buffoons like you though.

        • Gururussell

          I have always based my choice for candidate on the level at which their supporters are able to follow “Robert’s Rules of Order”.
          I am shocked!  SHOCKED, I tell you.
          That’s it…I’m going back to Santorum.

          • Anonymous

             Gary, I know you’re being humorous but it has little to do with anything. The point is that Romney supporters are crying foul at these conventions when the Paul people are following the state GOP rules to a tee and the Romney people are actively violating the rules. It’s just amusing.

            • dw

              *sarcasm on*
              It’s called “vetting”. The candidate that can best break the rules and best break other candidates will be considered the most viable and best the GOP can offer. *sarcasm off*

              I really hope the GOP convention has a lot of fireworks and that Romney gets dethroned somehow.

              • Anonymous

                My brother works for code enforcement in a small city neighboring Houston. During recent local election, city council etc, every candidate and every party complied with the city ordinances regarding campaign signs, etc….except…for Ron Paul supporters. The man was not even on any ballot yet the Paulective violated rule after rule putting Ron Paul signs everywhere and infiltrating the local elections and town halls. They are jokes. Even the “KOOKSTER” is concerned by the kooks that are now disrupting the process in his name.

                You are right, dw. There will undoubtedly be fireworks at the Tampa convention because we can all predict that nutters will make it their mission in life to disrupt the process.

              • Anonymous

                 Once again Brian ignores reality and the fact that his war loving,bloodlusting, anti-american fellow Romney supporters have broken the rules at every state convention thus far while the Paul supporters were well prepared, followed the rules and executed successful plans.

                Once again Brian has no understanding of facts or logic. Too many drugs maybe? What ya hiding Bri bri.

  • Anonymous

    Paul may not make trouble in Tampa but make no mistake about it, his fringe flock will be absolutely determined to. It is what they do. Even Dr. Paul himself will be unable to contain the political Frankentein he created. They have nothing else to do. They have committed themselves to a lost cause, have donated their weekly allowances and student loans, sacrificed going to Lollapalooza concerts to attend Paul rallies, and now, are left wondering what to do now that the dream is dead. Their mission now is to create chaos and anarchy and attempt to destroy Romney’s chances of winning the election. They have pretended to be serious minded people engaged in the political process but the facade will soon be exposed for what it really is, truther birther fringers who if not for occupying and disrupting organized political events would be organizing public parks.

    • Anonymous

       The rantings of a delusional loser in lust with his polished unprincipled man of the year.

    • Anonymous

       BTW, Romney already has zero chance of winning the election… so enjoy.

      • Anonymous

        Like a child. The intellectual equivalent of Nanny-Nanny Boo- Boo.

        • Anonymous

          You’ve never been able to rationally discuss a single political issue on here, so your response is amusing. I’m just keeping it real – anyone can see Romney has already lost. Obama’s been a terrible president and yet all early polls indicate he’ll dominate the electoral vote.

          Oh well, I’m sure there will be another unprincipled robot for you to worship in 2016.

          • Anonymous

            The election is over, folks! Rob has declared Obama the winner! No need to blog about the election any further.

            Funny how the nutters are willing to call the general election at the same time they fail to acknowledge the outcome of the primary election. Go figure.

            Paul still has a chance to win the primary but Romney has “zero” chance to win the general. LOL. What is one to do but laugh at these freaks?

            Children make me laugh!

            • Anonymous

               Speaking of children, I’m arguing with a neoconservative loon who ignore reality, refuses to debate with logic and doesn’t understand how the election process works.

              First, I’ve never once said Romney won’t be the nominee.

              Secondly, Romney hasn’t won the nomination yet. That’s the whole point of the RNC and he doesn’t have the number of delegates yet. Do I think he’s won? Yes. Has he won? No. Fact.

              Thirdly, he will lose the election to Obama. You can debate until you are blue in the face, but that is reality.

              Now, one of these days maybe you’ll understand that there’s more to political parties than the presidential election, and that is where we are cleaning up big for the future.

              Sad little man.

              • Anonymous

                “Reality” according to Rob. Love it!

              • Anonymous

                 Feel free to dispute anything in my post. I’m waiting.

              • RobPaul

                 Feel free to dispute anything in my post. I’m waiting.

              • Anonymous

                 Still waiting for you to dispute any single point. Oops. Can’t do it with that puny brain?

              • Anonymous

                I just can’t handle it, Rob. The depth of your intellect and utter brilliance is far beyond that of a most mortal brain like myself. Your political savvyness is beyond comprehension. Your ability to toke on a water-bong and remain so clear in your thinking is almost inhuman, and quite inspiring. You simply make too many most valid points to wipe my puny brain around. Your ability to anticipate and predict political outcomes is most impressive, indeed. Your ability to proclaim Ron Paul the next President regardless of his laughable lack of support is, too, most impressive. To attempt to counter your brilliance on each and every point you have made would be an act of futility on my part. The Paulective are simply superior intellects than those who support an utter life long failure and unaccomplished person such as Mitt Romney. No, Rob. I can’t counter your points. I can only hope to learn from them, be inspired by them, and hopefully live my life by them.

                Thank You for all you do.

              • Anonymous

                 Once again, you fail to even attempt to dispute a single point in my post (and I have never, at any point, said Paul will be the next president of the US). Next!

  • Anonymous

    Paul may not make trouble in Tampa but make no mistake about it, his fringe flock will be absolutely determined to. It is what they do. Even Dr. Paul himself will be unable to contain the political Frankentein he created. They have nothing else to do. They have committed themselves to a lost cause, have donated their weekly allowances and student loans, sacrificed going to Lollapalooza concerts to attend Paul rallies, and now, are left wondering what to do now that the dream is dead. Their mission now is to create chaos and anarchy and attempt to destroy Romney’s chances of winning the election. They have pretended to be serious minded people engaged in the political process but the facade will soon be exposed for what it really is, truther birther fringers who if not for occupying and disrupting organized political events would be organizing public parks.

    • Anonymous

       The rantings of a delusional loser in lust with his polished unprincipled man of the year.

    • Anonymous

       BTW, Romney already has zero chance of winning the election… so enjoy.

      • Anonymous

        Like a child. The intellectual equivalent of Nanny-Nanny Boo- Boo.

        • Anonymous

          You’ve never been able to rationally discuss a single political issue on here, so your response is amusing. I’m just keeping it real – anyone can see Romney has already lost. Obama’s been a terrible president and yet all early polls indicate he’ll dominate the electoral vote.

          Oh well, I’m sure there will be another unprincipled robot for you to worship in 2016.

          • Anonymous

            The election is over, folks! Rob has declared Obama the winner! No need to blog about the election any further.

            Funny how the nutters are willing to call the general election at the same time they fail to acknowledge the outcome of the primary election. Go figure.

            Paul still has a chance to win the primary but Romney has “zero” chance to win the general. LOL. What is one to do but laugh at these freaks?

            Children make me laugh!

            • Anonymous

               Speaking of children, I’m arguing with a neoconservative loon who ignore reality, refuses to debate with logic and doesn’t understand how the election process works.

              First, I’ve never once said Romney won’t be the nominee.

              Secondly, Romney hasn’t won the nomination yet. That’s the whole point of the RNC and he doesn’t have the number of delegates yet. Do I think he’s won? Yes. Has he won? No. Fact.

              Thirdly, he will lose the election to Obama. You can debate until you are blue in the face, but that is reality.

              Now, one of these days maybe you’ll understand that there’s more to political parties than the presidential election, and that is where we are cleaning up big for the future.

              Sad little man.

              • Anonymous

                “Reality” according to Rob. Love it!

              • Anonymous

                 Feel free to dispute anything in my post. I’m waiting.

              • Anonymous

                 Still waiting for you to dispute any single point. Oops. Can’t do it with that puny brain?

              • Anonymous

                I just can’t handle it, Rob. The depth of your intellect and utter brilliance is far beyond that of a most mortal brain like myself. Your political savvyness is beyond comprehension. Your ability to toke on a water-bong and remain so clear in your thinking is almost inhuman, and quite inspiring. You simply make too many most valid points to wipe my puny brain around. Your ability to anticipate and predict political outcomes is most impressive, indeed. Your ability to proclaim Ron Paul the next President regardless of his laughable lack of support is, too, most impressive. To attempt to counter your brilliance on each and every point you have made would be an act of futility on my part. The Paulective are simply superior intellects than those who support an utter life long failure and unaccomplished person such as Mitt Romney. No, Rob. I can’t counter your points. I can only hope to learn from them, be inspired by them, and hopefully live my life by them.

                Thank You for all you do.

              • Anonymous

                 Once again, you fail to even attempt to dispute a single point in my post (and I have never, at any point, said Paul will be the next president of the US). Next!

  • Whodat

    I admit that my view of the world from my back porch is impeded by a few acres, some trees, some dogs and other things… But, from here it appears that Joe Biden did his thing for the team and was willing to stir the pot as he loves to do, and when the Obomb team measured the sludge that came up, they found a glimmer of hope: polling data that said about half of America agreed. So, they jumped on it and, based on the their base, they have now doubled down on it.

    What I like is that this appeared to them to be the best issue they had to work with.  They have nothing else going.  The “war on women” theme had a short life, the economy is bad and some think worsening, the Supreme’s may nix Obombocare, but if they don’t, we Tea Partiers will go apoplectic and be even more intense this year than in 2010.  So, desperate for a campaign jewel, they followed Biden’s leadership toward the rainbow.  I could not be more pleased.

    As a red state right wing conservative, I know a poll of “all Americans” tends to be concentrated disproportionately in big cities.  So, the people who are dumb enough to live in such places would more likely think liberal ideas are good ideas.  Thanks to the Electoral College, our founders somewhat insulated we country folk from being dominated by likes of Sodom and Ghomorrah, so how the city folk feel and vote does not so likely kill us all.

    • Anonymous

      Have you ever noticed that…

      Bill Clinton was the first black president…and he’s white?

      Barack Obama is the first ‘gay’ president…and he’s straight?

      • Anonymous

        Maybe….

  • Whodat

    I admit that my view of the world from my back porch is impeded by a few acres, some trees, some dogs and other things… But, from here it appears that Joe Biden did his thing for the team and was willing to stir the pot as he loves to do, and when the Obomb team measured the sludge that came up, they found a glimmer of hope: polling data that said about half of America agreed. So, they jumped on it and, based on the their base, they have now doubled down on it.

    What I like is that this appeared to them to be the best issue they had to work with.  They have nothing else going.  The “war on women” theme had a short life, the economy is bad and some think worsening, the Supreme’s may nix Obombocare, but if they don’t, we Tea Partiers will go apoplectic and be even more intense this year than in 2010.  So, desperate for a campaign jewel, they followed Biden’s leadership toward the rainbow.  I could not be more pleased.

    As a red state right wing conservative, I know a poll of “all Americans” tends to be concentrated disproportionately in big cities.  So, the people who are dumb enough to live in such places would more likely think liberal ideas are good ideas.  Thanks to the Electoral College, our founders somewhat insulated we country folk from being dominated by likes of Sodom and Ghomorrah, so how the city folk feel and vote does not so likely kill us all.

    • Anonymous

      Have you ever noticed that…

      Bill Clinton was the first black president…and he’s white?

      Barack Obama is the first ‘gay’ president…and he’s straight?

      • Anonymous

        Maybe….

  • Jason Wright, Editor

    Another interesting bit of news:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/trust_on_issues_obama_v_romney

    “Voters now trust likely Republican nominee Mitt Romney more than President Obama on all five issues regularly surveyed by Rasmussen Reports, especially when it comes to money.”

  • Jason Wright, Editor

    Another interesting bit of news:

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/trust_on_issues_obama_v_romney

    “Voters now trust likely Republican nominee Mitt Romney more than President Obama on all five issues regularly surveyed by Rasmussen Reports, especially when it comes to money.”