Weekend open thread

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Filed Under Open Thread on May 12 

Mitt Romney speaks at Liberty and gets high marks from Evangelicals.

Rand Paul speaks at Iowa’s Faith and Freedom Coalition and makes a dumb joke that will certainly follow him all the way to his own campaign for president.

Americans have spoken to Gallup and the verdict is “a whopping 40 percent of Americans say President Obama’s newly public support of gay marriage will affect their votes.”

What else is on your mind this weekend?

Comments

  • Anonymous

    What is ironic is Obama’s “gay marriage” endorsement may be the most significant event of his entire first term. Although we all recognize that getting UBL, the failing economy, govt. spending, and Obamacare are important events, in the long run it may be his statement on gay marriage that defines his presidency more than anything else. James Monroe read one paragraph from one speech that defined the “Monroe Doctrine” and the Monroe presidency. This too, for Obama, may be his legacy. 

    I am not sure Obama will be able to pivot away from the issue as his timid support brings more questions than it answers. Mitt will be able to pivot, however. It is not his issue and it is not a conversation he started. He will be able to circle back to the failed economic policies of Obama.

  • Anonymous

    What is ironic is Obama’s “gay marriage” endorsement may be the most significant event of his entire first term. Although we all recognize that getting UBL, the failing economy, govt. spending, and Obamacare are important events, in the long run it may be his statement on gay marriage that defines his presidency more than anything else. James Monroe read one paragraph from one speech that defined the “Monroe Doctrine” and the Monroe presidency. This too, for Obama, may be his legacy. 

    I am not sure Obama will be able to pivot away from the issue as his timid support brings more questions than it answers. Mitt will be able to pivot, however. It is not his issue and it is not a conversation he started. He will be able to circle back to the failed economic policies of Obama.

  • Anonymous

    Romney’s Liberty Speech – This speech is an example of exactly why a nominee needs to have the skill sets needed to run for President. Romney has been improving as a candidate for the last year. He is smart, organized, and disciplined as a candidate and is a man of strong character. The GOP should be giddy with their nominee this election cycle. I know lefties who have to admit it is hard not to think Romney would make a competent and capable President. 

    Rand Paul joke- An example why a nominee needs to have the skill sets needed to run for President. A funny wise crack maybe, but not Vice Presidential. By the way. Who knew this kid would grow up to be a US Senator….
    http://www.google.com/imgres?q=eddie+haskell&um=1&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&biw=1280&bih=664&tbm=isch&tbnid=1kh4BFdd3QwlHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/202504&docid=mYfL_oMJ5Kw03M&imgurl=http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/904/Beaver78.jpg&w=500&h=350&ei=i7uvT4a0FeKC2wXPhonqCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=688&vpy=138&dur=1796&hovh=188&hovw=268&tx=129&ty=144&sig=102993781350396491153&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=167&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:94

    http://www.google.com/imgres?q=rand+paul&um=1&hl=en&client=safari&sa=N&rls=en&biw=1280&bih=664&tbm=isch&tbnid=NFDFv3dl0XtW8M:&imgrefurl=http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Rand_Paul.htm&docid=XZnoo7OchmmBzM&imgurl=http://www.ontheissues.org/pictures/Rand_Paul.jpg&w=249&h=320&ei=jb2vT5ukNeOA2wXrlonqCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=433&vpy=157&dur=442&hovh=255&hovw=198&tx=117&ty=140&sig=102993781350396491153&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=107&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:131

  • Anonymous

    Romney’s Liberty Speech – This speech is an example of exactly why a nominee needs to have the skill sets needed to run for President. Romney has been improving as a candidate for the last year. He is smart, organized, and disciplined as a candidate and is a man of strong character. The GOP should be giddy with their nominee this election cycle. I know lefties who have to admit it is hard not to think Romney would make a competent and capable President. 

    Rand Paul joke- An example why a nominee needs to have the skill sets needed to run for President. A funny wise crack maybe, but not Vice Presidential. By the way. Who knew this kid would grow up to be a US Senator….
    http://www.google.com/imgres?q=eddie+haskell&um=1&hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&biw=1280&bih=664&tbm=isch&tbnid=1kh4BFdd3QwlHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/202504&docid=mYfL_oMJ5Kw03M&imgurl=http://www.sitcomsonline.com/photopost/data/904/Beaver78.jpg&w=500&h=350&ei=i7uvT4a0FeKC2wXPhonqCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=688&vpy=138&dur=1796&hovh=188&hovw=268&tx=129&ty=144&sig=102993781350396491153&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=167&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:9,s:0,i:94

    http://www.google.com/imgres?q=rand+paul&um=1&hl=en&client=safari&sa=N&rls=en&biw=1280&bih=664&tbm=isch&tbnid=NFDFv3dl0XtW8M:&imgrefurl=http://www.ontheissues.org/senate/Rand_Paul.htm&docid=XZnoo7OchmmBzM&imgurl=http://www.ontheissues.org/pictures/Rand_Paul.jpg&w=249&h=320&ei=jb2vT5ukNeOA2wXrlonqCA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=433&vpy=157&dur=442&hovh=255&hovw=198&tx=117&ty=140&sig=102993781350396491153&page=1&tbnh=139&tbnw=107&start=0&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0,i:131

  • Whodat

    Those metaphors about “iron-sharpening-iron”, “the higher the heat, the more tempered the steel” etc ring true here:  the bitter battle that was supposed to leave us broken and bitter seems to have forced Romney into a sincere, heartfelt appeal toward those to his right.  And, we of the farther right have grown ourselves into a wider tolerance for those to our (slight) left.  We are reaching out to each other – something I think we never did with McCain.  An intelligent VP choice will seal the deal.  Polls are moving in the right direction and I am feeling pretty good about November!

    And, I say that from the expert status of already having won my POA election in May. 

    • dw

      What have you done with the real Whodat?!?

      Reaching out to each other??? Really??? Not a chance. With all due respect, you are not speaking for all of those on the farther right – especially not me.

      I still believe that Romney (and most of the current GOP) is Democrat-Lite. But, if it is a choice between Romney and Obama, Romney is still better than a Socialist/Marxist/Communist/whatever that we have as POTUS right now.

      OTOH, if we get a better alternative in November (Gary Johnson is NOT better), I would love to vote the GOP out of the picture.

      I want more significant change than either the Dems or GOP have to offer.

      • Whodat

         According to one of the great philosophers of my generation, Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones, “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”

        I made a life’s work of selling plastics and NEGOTIATION was key.  I did not always win, but I won more than my share.  I never ran.  I never quit.  I kept on fighting.  As a result, a boy of no more than average intelligence, and with a hard work factor of less than that, filled up passports and my home with interesting stuff and great memories. 

        So, storming away because I did not get my way never got me anything.  And, in politics or a POA, when you quit, you are forgotten as quickly as a glass of water returns to its original level when you remove your finger from it.

        You run your life, but I run mine by staying involved, staying in the game and remaining an influence in some way, playing for the future and more.  To join a Johnson or a Paul in some desperate, fringe-freak-ego-powered political death wish will accomplish nothing.  Walk into a Romney headquarters with a Paul tee-shirt on and say, “O.K., I’m here to help.  What can I do to help beat Obomb?” and see if you don’t get the feeling that you have some influence in the situation…  Much, much more than if you set sail in a very small boat on a very large sea.

        • Anonymous

          Brilliantly articulated and 100% correct. We had Republicans who threw a tantrum in 2006 and the price of that tantrum has been a Democrat Pelosi/Reid congress. There is nothing intellectual, courageous, or principled in removing oneself from the process. They think they are “sending a message”. They are wrong. 

        • dw

          I’m not removing myself from anything, except the GOP. I know I won’t find a perfect candidate, but I think that the GOP has changed into just a lite version of the DNC. That’s why I am looking elsewhere to stay engaged.

          But, for November, if no one else joins in, I’ll hold my nose for Romney.

  • Whodat

    Those metaphors about “iron-sharpening-iron”, “the higher the heat, the more tempered the steel” etc ring true here:  the bitter battle that was supposed to leave us broken and bitter seems to have forced Romney into a sincere, heartfelt appeal toward those to his right.  And, we of the farther right have grown ourselves into a wider tolerance for those to our (slight) left.  We are reaching out to each other – something I think we never did with McCain.  An intelligent VP choice will seal the deal.  Polls are moving in the right direction and I am feeling pretty good about November!

    And, I say that from the expert status of already having won my POA election in May. 

    • dw

      What have you done with the real Whodat?!?

      Reaching out to each other??? Really??? Not a chance. With all due respect, you are not speaking for all of those on the farther right – especially not me.

      I still believe that Romney (and most of the current GOP) is Democrat-Lite. But, if it is a choice between Romney and Obama, Romney is still better than a Socialist/Marxist/Communist/whatever that we have as POTUS right now.

      OTOH, if we get a better alternative in November (Gary Johnson is NOT better), I would love to vote the GOP out of the picture.

      I want more significant change than either the Dems or GOP have to offer.

      • Whodat

         According to one of the great philosophers of my generation, Mick Jagger of the Rolling Stones, “You Can’t Always Get What You Want”

        I made a life’s work of selling plastics and NEGOTIATION was key.  I did not always win, but I won more than my share.  I never ran.  I never quit.  I kept on fighting.  As a result, a boy of no more than average intelligence, and with a hard work factor of less than that, filled up passports and my home with interesting stuff and great memories. 

        So, storming away because I did not get my way never got me anything.  And, in politics or a POA, when you quit, you are forgotten as quickly as a glass of water returns to its original level when you remove your finger from it.

        You run your life, but I run mine by staying involved, staying in the game and remaining an influence in some way, playing for the future and more.  To join a Johnson or a Paul in some desperate, fringe-freak-ego-powered political death wish will accomplish nothing.  Walk into a Romney headquarters with a Paul tee-shirt on and say, “O.K., I’m here to help.  What can I do to help beat Obomb?” and see if you don’t get the feeling that you have some influence in the situation…  Much, much more than if you set sail in a very small boat on a very large sea.

        • Anonymous

          Brilliantly articulated and 100% correct. We had Republicans who threw a tantrum in 2006 and the price of that tantrum has been a Democrat Pelosi/Reid congress. There is nothing intellectual, courageous, or principled in removing oneself from the process. They think they are “sending a message”. They are wrong. 

        • dw

          I’m not removing myself from anything, except the GOP. I know I won’t find a perfect candidate, but I think that the GOP has changed into just a lite version of the DNC. That’s why I am looking elsewhere to stay engaged.

          But, for November, if no one else joins in, I’ll hold my nose for Romney.

  • Jacosta

    As I witnessed and listened to Romney’s speech at Liberty, all I could think is, “Wow!”!  I really believe that Obama is shaking and worried a lot, and that Romney is going to give Obama, and his Hollywierd cronies, a run for their money!  After election day – Obama is going to be pissed while wondering where things went wrong in that he lost the election to a better man with better vision and better ideals…Mitt Romney!

    • Anonymous

      I hope your fantasy turns out to be true, only because it sounds nice.  I would rather have Liberal-lite in the White House then who occupies it now. It still doesn’t make me happy that we are stuck with such a poor “Conservative” 

  • Jacosta

    As I witnessed and listened to Romney’s speech at Liberty, all I could think is, “Wow!”!  I really believe that Obama is shaking and worried a lot, and that Romney is going to give Obama, and his Hollywierd cronies, a run for their money!  After election day – Obama is going to be pissed while wondering where things went wrong in that he lost the election to a better man with better vision and better ideals…Mitt Romney!

    • Anonymous

      I hope your fantasy turns out to be true, only because it sounds nice.  I would rather have Liberal-lite in the White House then who occupies it now. It still doesn’t make me happy that we are stuck with such a poor “Conservative”