Tuesday open thread

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Filed Under Open Thread on Mar 27 

Today Politico reports that Karl Rove’s fight club is gearing back up for 2012 and is reminding members of the rules.

RCP writes that Santorum’s willingness to fight to the end comes with risks.

WS interviews Romney and dubs him “risk-averse.”

Finally, some guy writing in the Deseret News goes behind the scenes of a Fox News appearance.

Comments

  • Anonymous

    I truly feel sorry for Gingrich.  From his proclaiming himself as the next Republican nominee to now cutting his staff and claiming to “take it to Tampa,” he is portraying the bad side of a career politician – ignoring reality and failing to make a logical decision (to drop out of the race).

  • Anonymous

    I truly feel sorry for Gingrich.  From his proclaiming himself as the next Republican nominee to now cutting his staff and claiming to “take it to Tampa,” he is portraying the bad side of a career politician – ignoring reality and failing to make a logical decision (to drop out of the race).

  • Whodat

    Why were the primaries set up to stretch from January thru June if so many in the press and party want all the not-ahead candidates to throw in the towel after the first few?  I read and hear all this, “he should get out now for the party”, but did we hear anyone complain back last year that having primaries stretched out for 6 months would hurt the party?  What did they think would happen?  Somebody gets ahead, there are ebbs and flows and people of the various states show that they are of different opinions that those In New Hampshire, Iowa and so on.  So, it makes no sense to have a system set up, then trash it continually because the professionals think it is too long, too this or too that.  So, in 2016, lets have all the primaries in two months and be done!

    And what proves an extended primary season improves the election?  Our side stays on page 1 with a bitter fight.  Would it be better to stay off of page 1 and let Obomb have it to himself?  I don’t think so.  Didn’t somebody say, “even bad publicity is good – as long as they spell the name right.”

    #2  I saw what I think is the quote that is being reported as him saying he would accept the VP spot – which I thought was nuts.  He did not say that.  He said, in answer to an inane question, he would do whatever it takes to get Obomb out.  That does not sould like fishing for the VP spot to me.

    His future political chances?  I cannot imagine Santorum cares at this point.  He is rich. He is grounded in family.  He has had a good ride.  I think this was his run and he is going to see it through until the end and then be done.

    Meanwhile, the last embedded reporter with Newtie’s campaign has left.  No press coverage pretty much closes out that deal, but I am sure we will still hear his pontifications ad nauseum….  Did I see Ron Paul’s picture on a milk carton this week.  He has certainly dropped out of sight.

    • Marshport

      I agree with a shorter time frame for primaries/caucuses.  Wasn’t there talk in 2008 about having about four regional primaries and rotating the regions each cycle?  Since I live in Oregon, whose primary is on May 15th, it would be nice to have a chance to participate in the process, but it’s usually settled by that date.

    • Anonymous

      I like a primary process that is more than one day or one week long. I live in PA, and we’re like the caboose on this election train, so don’t get to decide a darned thing. That being said, I think a 1 day national-type of primary would not be good. Like you said, it keeps the R names on the front page, it allows for a vetting period to get all the fluff and minutia separated from the serious issues, and it gives us to watch a candidate react to challenges, rather than have a good photo-op day radnomly at the right moment to catch all the votes. Whether it’s rotational, or regional over time, I think we can tweak it but keep the longitude present, so we can see these guys in living color – not just a brief snapshot.

      • Fitzwdarcey

        Ummm, no Utah is ever the caboose, but I agree that before the majority of states felt they didn’t matter.  Now they do.  Should we move to rotating regional primaries though to get it over more quickly and still have more of the nation matter?  It is an interesting question.

        • Alaina

          Or we could have the primary on one day in March or April.

          • Anonymous

            I just think that’s tempting fate. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, and my concern is you get someone who’s a flash in the pan at just the right moment, and you’re left with an unviable candidate. I like a 3-4 month period, but make it rotational and/or regional so that candidates will visit a variety of states, not just a few key ones or just the big ones. Then rotate the order over 2-3 cycles.

            • Anonymous

              Take it a step further and make the regional primary a phone/internet vote.  You already get issued a card in this state so all you need to do is call in, verify your info, and then input the code given to you to open up your ballot.  I bet it would reduce fraudulent voting.

              • Raul

                Because that wouldn’t have any fraud at all, would it?

              • Anonymous

                Less chance of fraud then now when you don’t even have to show your ID to prove who you say you are.

  • Whodat

    Why were the primaries set up to stretch from January thru June if so many in the press and party want all the not-ahead candidates to throw in the towel after the first few?  I read and hear all this, “he should get out now for the party”, but did we hear anyone complain back last year that having primaries stretched out for 6 months would hurt the party?  What did they think would happen?  Somebody gets ahead, there are ebbs and flows and people of the various states show that they are of different opinions that those In New Hampshire, Iowa and so on.  So, it makes no sense to have a system set up, then trash it continually because the professionals think it is too long, too this or too that.  So, in 2016, lets have all the primaries in two months and be done!

    And what proves an extended primary season improves the election?  Our side stays on page 1 with a bitter fight.  Would it be better to stay off of page 1 and let Obomb have it to himself?  I don’t think so.  Didn’t somebody say, “even bad publicity is good – as long as they spell the name right.”

    #2  I saw what I think is the quote that is being reported as him saying he would accept the VP spot – which I thought was nuts.  He did not say that.  He said, in answer to an inane question, he would do whatever it takes to get Obomb out.  That does not sould like fishing for the VP spot to me.

    His future political chances?  I cannot imagine Santorum cares at this point.  He is rich. He is grounded in family.  He has had a good ride.  I think this was his run and he is going to see it through until the end and then be done.

    Meanwhile, the last embedded reporter with Newtie’s campaign has left.  No press coverage pretty much closes out that deal, but I am sure we will still hear his pontifications ad nauseum….  Did I see Ron Paul’s picture on a milk carton this week.  He has certainly dropped out of sight.

    • Marshport

      I agree with a shorter time frame for primaries/caucuses.  Wasn’t there talk in 2008 about having about four regional primaries and rotating the regions each cycle?  Since I live in Oregon, whose primary is on May 15th, it would be nice to have a chance to participate in the process, but it’s usually settled by that date.

    • Anonymous

      I like a primary process that is more than one day or one week long. I live in PA, and we’re like the caboose on this election train, so don’t get to decide a darned thing. That being said, I think a 1 day national-type of primary would not be good. Like you said, it keeps the R names on the front page, it allows for a vetting period to get all the fluff and minutia separated from the serious issues, and it gives us to watch a candidate react to challenges, rather than have a good photo-op day radnomly at the right moment to catch all the votes. Whether it’s rotational, or regional over time, I think we can tweak it but keep the longitude present, so we can see these guys in living color – not just a brief snapshot.

      • Fitzwdarcey

        Ummm, no Utah is ever the caboose, but I agree that before the majority of states felt they didn’t matter.  Now they do.  Should we move to rotating regional primaries though to get it over more quickly and still have more of the nation matter?  It is an interesting question.

        • Alaina

          Or we could have the primary on one day in March or April.

          • Anonymous

            I just think that’s tempting fate. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and then, and my concern is you get someone who’s a flash in the pan at just the right moment, and you’re left with an unviable candidate. I like a 3-4 month period, but make it rotational and/or regional so that candidates will visit a variety of states, not just a few key ones or just the big ones. Then rotate the order over 2-3 cycles.

            • Anonymous

              Take it a step further and make the regional primary a phone/internet vote.  You already get issued a card in this state so all you need to do is call in, verify your info, and then input the code given to you to open up your ballot.  I bet it would reduce fraudulent voting.

              • Raul

                Because that wouldn’t have any fraud at all, would it?

              • Anonymous

                Less chance of fraud then now when you don’t even have to show your ID to prove who you say you are.