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  • yeah, Bruce again

    Romney is the Bob Dole of 2012 … its “his turn”

  • yeah, Bruce again

    Romney is the Bob Dole of 2012 … its “his turn”

  • Anonymous

    It’s the lament that the Establishment picked the wrong horse.  I don’t see anyone they would approve of that would do any better then Romney.

    • Anonymous

      A few questions I would appreciate an honest no rhetoric response for.

      Who is “the establishment”???? 
      Isn’t it the responsibility of political party leaders to try to field the most electable candidates?

      • Anonymous

        The Establishment are the GOP leadership that is so entrenched in keeping the status quo that they have forgotten why we vote Republican.

        It is the responsibility of party leaders to try to field the most QUALIFIED candidates that will uphold the party platform.  This hasn’t been the case lately.

        If the GOP would go back to upholding the Constitution there would be no issue of their candidates being electable.

  • Anonymous

    It’s the lament that the Establishment picked the wrong horse.  I don’t see anyone they would approve of that would do any better then Romney.

    • Anonymous

      A few questions I would appreciate an honest no rhetoric response for.

      Who is “the establishment”???? 
      Isn’t it the responsibility of political party leaders to try to field the most electable candidates?

      • Anonymous

        The Establishment are the GOP leadership that is so entrenched in keeping the status quo that they have forgotten why we vote Republican.

        It is the responsibility of party leaders to try to field the most QUALIFIED candidates that will uphold the party platform.  This hasn’t been the case lately.

        If the GOP would go back to upholding the Constitution there would be no issue of their candidates being electable.

  • Whodat

    Never one to say, “I told you so”,
    But, I did, several times, you know
    I did.  It was printed here at PD –
    But, of course, this isn’t about me.
    .
    So, the great Armey, Newt’s buddy
    Is now Newt’s old fuddy-duddy.
    Dick says a new guy might suit us
    While Newt might say, “Et tu, Brutus?”
    .
    Armey might also make Mitt’s lip quiver-
    Romney could ask, “Am I chopped liver?”
    Maybe so.  We ain’t all happy with these
    Guys.  Maybe new guys will better please.
    .
    But, wait!!! Must we start again with 8?
    OMG! Not lol! Reset debates? Can’t wait!

    • Russ

      “suit us…Brutus” – classic!

  • Whodat

    Never one to say, “I told you so”,
    But, I did, several times, you know
    I did.  It was printed here at PD –
    But, of course, this isn’t about me.
    .
    So, the great Armey, Newt’s buddy
    Is now Newt’s old fuddy-duddy.
    Dick says a new guy might suit us
    While Newt might say, “Et tu, Brutus?”
    .
    Armey might also make Mitt’s lip quiver-
    Romney could ask, “Am I chopped liver?”
    Maybe so.  We ain’t all happy with these
    Guys.  Maybe new guys will better please.
    .
    But, wait!!! Must we start again with 8?
    OMG! Not lol! Reset debates? Can’t wait!

    • Russ

      “suit us…Brutus” – classic!

  • yeah, Bruce again

    Newt resonates with the voters.  Mitt doesn’t understand the voters. Ron Paul doesn’t care about the voters.  Rick is just a really nice guy … but the country needs a transformational leader not Timid Timothy or an angry isolationist.

    • Anonymous

      Rush Limbaugh resonates with Republicans. Mark Levin resonates with Republicans. Hannity resonates with Republicans. All would make terrible candidates and terrible Presidents. We are selecting someone to run the country, not lead a pep-rally. 

      • Chris

        Brian, I think you make a lot of sense with these points. I just don’t see gov Romney as catching fire in the race. Even if he gets the nomination I think thinks like paying 15% tax won’t get the independent voters he needs to beat President Obama. Maybe the GOP needs another horse, at the moment I can’t see any of the candidates winning in the autumn

        • Anonymous

          His tax rates of 15% for capital gains, not income, will only matter to the most rabid lefties. If that is the worst thing they can attack him for, for filing his taxes correctly, then the Dems would be in real real trouble. Newt turns the election about Newt. Mitt makes the election about Obama.

      • Anonymous

        Voters.

        He resonates with V-O-T-E-R-S.

        • Anonymous

          Since when? This week? Where we’re all the Newt resonates with voters voters a month ago?

          • Anonymous

            With … wait for it… ANYBODY but McRomney.

            • Anonymous

              …including Obama!

              Cute dodge to a legit question.

              Ill pretend the “McRomney” slam is a profound intellectual response.

              • Anonymous

                Hard to make an “intellectual” response to your question as worded:

                “Where we’re all the Newt resonates with voters voters a month ago?”

                Did my best to be profound and intellectual. Not sure about cute – but “thanks”.

                I’ll break it down further:

                A month or more ago, the voters with whom Newt now resonates were auditioning – one by one – every candidate EXCEPT Mitt in the hopes that they would find one who was not a repeat of McCain.

                As the others dropped/flamed out, they gravitated towards the greatest “not Romney” – in unbelievable numbers in a jaw-droppingly short amount of time

              • Anonymous

                Kind of sad, isn’t it? 
                Educated concerned citizens who can’t choose a candidate based on that candidates virtues but based only on their opposition to another candidate.I have to honestly give the Paulective credit, here. The Paulective honestly support Paul because they like Paul and stand with him, not because Paul is an Anybody But…. to anyone.I supported Pawlenty when nobody else I know did. Not because T-Paw was not Mitt Romney, but because I believed him to be the best candidate. When he left the race I moved to Newt….correction…Mitt. Not because he is an “Anybody but…”, but, because I believe him to now be the next best candidate.

              • Anonymous

                “…When he left the race I moved to Newt…”

                Glad to see you’ve moved to Newt!

              • Anonymous

                Thanks for the correction. Hope I don’t make the same mistake in the voters booth.

              • Anonymous

                Aw, man….I thought that I’d won you over.
                :)

                Seriously, though, Brian, I’m enjoying our back-and-forth on this.  I’m not used to disagreeing with you so much on this site.  Up until lately, we’ve agreed a whole lot more than we’ve disagreed.

                And, in the end, if its Romney vs. Obama, there’s NO doubt that I’ll vote Romney.

                With a heavy sigh, yes, but I’ll still do it.

              • Anonymous

                Thanks, GR. Dito.

          • Bruce

            Is Romney going to deploy the McCain strategy?  Vast and obscene buckets of money to cloud the opposition with negative ads?  That worked in Iowa and it worked for McCain to save his Senate seat in AZ

      • yeah, Bruce again

        Romney has no fire; can’t catch fire; can’t spell fire.  Mr. 25% is just what he seems – out of touch.  You may say it as much as you wish, but voters (remember them) will find something to latch onto in Newt.  McCain may wish he was a ‘maverick’ but Newt truly is.  Remember history; Once upon a time Winston Churchill was England’s “Newt” and, the times required him.  Churchill was considered by many “toxic” … that is, until the chips were down.

  • yeah, Bruce again

    Newt resonates with the voters.  Mitt doesn’t understand the voters. Ron Paul doesn’t care about the voters.  Rick is just a really nice guy … but the country needs a transformational leader not Timid Timothy or an angry isolationist.

    • Anonymous

      Rush Limbaugh resonates with Republicans. Mark Levin resonates with Republicans. Hannity resonates with Republicans. All would make terrible candidates and terrible Presidents. We are selecting someone to run the country, not lead a pep-rally. 

      • Chris

        Brian, I think you make a lot of sense with these points. I just don’t see gov Romney as catching fire in the race. Even if he gets the nomination I think thinks like paying 15% tax won’t get the independent voters he needs to beat President Obama. Maybe the GOP needs another horse, at the moment I can’t see any of the candidates winning in the autumn

        • Anonymous

          His tax rates of 15% for capital gains, not income, will only matter to the most rabid lefties. If that is the worst thing they can attack him for, for filing his taxes correctly, then the Dems would be in real real trouble. Newt turns the election about Newt. Mitt makes the election about Obama.

      • Anonymous

        Voters.

        He resonates with V-O-T-E-R-S.

        • Anonymous

          Since when? This week? Where we’re all the Newt resonates with voters voters a month ago?

          • Anonymous

            With … wait for it… ANYBODY but McRomney.

            • Anonymous

              …including Obama!

              Cute dodge to a legit question.

              Ill pretend the “McRomney” slam is a profound intellectual response.

              • Anonymous

                Hard to make an “intellectual” response to your question as worded:

                “Where we’re all the Newt resonates with voters voters a month ago?”

                Did my best to be profound and intellectual. Not sure about cute – but “thanks”.

                I’ll break it down further:

                A month or more ago, the voters with whom Newt now resonates were auditioning – one by one – every candidate EXCEPT Mitt in the hopes that they would find one who was not a repeat of McCain.

                As the others dropped/flamed out, they gravitated towards the greatest “not Romney” – in unbelievable numbers in a jaw-droppingly short amount of time

              • Anonymous

                Kind of sad, isn’t it? 
                Educated concerned citizens who can’t choose a candidate based on that candidates virtues but based only on their opposition to another candidate.I have to honestly give the Paulective credit, here. The Paulective honestly support Paul because they like Paul and stand with him, not because Paul is an Anybody But…. to anyone.I supported Pawlenty when nobody else I know did. Not because T-Paw was not Mitt Romney, but because I believed him to be the best candidate. When he left the race I moved to Newt….correction…Mitt. Not because he is an “Anybody but…”, but, because I believe him to now be the next best candidate.

              • Anonymous

                “…When he left the race I moved to Newt…”

                Glad to see you’ve moved to Newt!

              • Anonymous

                Thanks for the correction. Hope I don’t make the same mistake in the voters booth.

              • Anonymous

                Aw, man….I thought that I’d won you over.
                :)

                Seriously, though, Brian, I’m enjoying our back-and-forth on this.  I’m not used to disagreeing with you so much on this site.  Up until lately, we’ve agreed a whole lot more than we’ve disagreed.

                And, in the end, if its Romney vs. Obama, there’s NO doubt that I’ll vote Romney.

                With a heavy sigh, yes, but I’ll still do it.

              • Anonymous

                Thanks, GR. Dito.

          • Bruce

            Is Romney going to deploy the McCain strategy?  Vast and obscene buckets of money to cloud the opposition with negative ads?  That worked in Iowa and it worked for McCain to save his Senate seat in AZ

      • yeah, Bruce again

        Romney has no fire; can’t catch fire; can’t spell fire.  Mr. 25% is just what he seems – out of touch.  You may say it as much as you wish, but voters (remember them) will find something to latch onto in Newt.  McCain may wish he was a ‘maverick’ but Newt truly is.  Remember history; Once upon a time Winston Churchill was England’s “Newt” and, the times required him.  Churchill was considered by many “toxic” … that is, until the chips were down.

  • Bruce

    I guess the GOP elite just don’t understand; the guy who connects with the voters with the tone and message isn’t their darling.  It would be just like them to put another horse in the race at this point and simply give the next 4 years to Obama.

    • Anonymous

      The point is that the guy who connects with Republican voters with his tone and message will not get the same warm reception in a general election where he will have to pull voters who voted for Obama in 2012. You do realize that, do you not?

      If your main goal is to insult and attack Obama, Newt is the guy. If your goal is to defeat Obama, Newt is not the guy. Why is it that Republicans voters simply do not understand that Newt is toxic? He has been toxic for 20 years. He has blown up his campaign at least twice since he began this process. Are you confident he can go ten months without doing it again. If you think Newt can win do you even think about what a Newt presidency would look like?

      I don’t think can could win. I would not want Newt to win. I do not believe Gingrich has the tact, discipline, and humility to be President.

      • Anonymous

        In potential 2012 match-ups, it’s Obama 46% and Romney at 43%. If Gingrich is the GOP opponent, the president leads 49% to 40%.

        At this point in a campaign, those numbers aren’t too shabby, dear Abby.

        • Anonymous

          GR. Do you not honestly recognize Newt’s ability and likelihood to self destruct? 

          I am glad your enjoying this months flavor, GR. Lets check back in 30 days and see how satisfying the aftertaste is.

          • Anonymous

            Let’s.

      • yeah, Bruce again

        With respect Brian, remember that the so-called conservatives don’t consider Newt a conservative… Its not about R or D its about getting the country out of the mess many attribute to Obama.  Newt is not toxic – and Romney can’t win.  Romney’s motto?  “I’ll manage things a little better than Obama” and, the country can’t have 4 years of that.

  • Bruce

    I guess the GOP elite just don’t understand; the guy who connects with the voters with the tone and message isn’t their darling.  It would be just like them to put another horse in the race at this point and simply give the next 4 years to Obama.

    • Anonymous

      The point is that the guy who connects with Republican voters with his tone and message will not get the same warm reception in a general election where he will have to pull voters who voted for Obama in 2012. You do realize that, do you not?

      If your main goal is to insult and attack Obama, Newt is the guy. If your goal is to defeat Obama, Newt is not the guy. Why is it that Republicans voters simply do not understand that Newt is toxic? He has been toxic for 20 years. He has blown up his campaign at least twice since he began this process. Are you confident he can go ten months without doing it again. If you think Newt can win do you even think about what a Newt presidency would look like?

      I don’t think can could win. I would not want Newt to win. I do not believe Gingrich has the tact, discipline, and humility to be President.

      • Anonymous

        In potential 2012 match-ups, it’s Obama 46% and Romney at 43%. If Gingrich is the GOP opponent, the president leads 49% to 40%.

        At this point in a campaign, those numbers aren’t too shabby, dear Abby.

        • Anonymous

          GR. Do you not honestly recognize Newt’s ability and likelihood to self destruct? 

          I am glad your enjoying this months flavor, GR. Lets check back in 30 days and see how satisfying the aftertaste is.

          • Anonymous

            Let’s.

      • yeah, Bruce again

        With respect Brian, remember that the so-called conservatives don’t consider Newt a conservative… Its not about R or D its about getting the country out of the mess many attribute to Obama.  Newt is not toxic – and Romney can’t win.  Romney’s motto?  “I’ll manage things a little better than Obama” and, the country can’t have 4 years of that.

  • TheLogicalLeft

    Jason, Scott, I recommend we all keep eyes on Pennslyvania, their filing day is Feb 14th. If my math is right, If a GOP dark horse is to immerge, this is the day. Once past then, it’s statistically impossible to win the delegates to go to the convention as the decisive nominee.

    Plus let’s be honest, how many times in our nations history has this happened?

    • https://twitter.com/#!/PD_Scott Scott A. Robinson, Editor

      Not-gonna-happen

  • TheLogicalLeft

    Jason, Scott, I recommend we all keep eyes on Pennslyvania, their filing day is Feb 14th. If my math is right, If a GOP dark horse is to immerge, this is the day. Once past then, it’s statistically impossible to win the delegates to go to the convention as the decisive nominee.

    Plus let’s be honest, how many times in our nations history has this happened?

    • https://twitter.com/#!/PD_Scott Scott A. Robinson

      Not-gonna-happen

  • Anonymous

    The “establishment” are freaking out! As they should be. The “establishment” are seeing what should have been a good chance to win in 2012 go up in smoke because Republicans appear to be willing to nominate a man who has no chance of winning simply because they like the way he is abrasive and calls the President names.

    • Fitzwdarcey

      Yes, but Romney isn’t blameless in that. He is a good man with a reserved and polite personality, so attacking doesn’t come natural to him nor bragging nor firing up a crowd. That combined with some recent bad unforced errors leaves voters looking elsewhere. I think this, and I LIKE Mitt Romney.

      • TheLogicalLeft

        And Obama isn’t?

        • Fitzwdarcey

          Isn’t what?

  • Anonymous

    The “establishment” are freaking out! As they should be. The “establishment” are seeing what should have been a good chance to win in 2012 go up in smoke because Republicans appear to be willing to nominate a man who has no chance of winning simply because they like the way he is abrasive and calls the President names.

    • Fitzwdarcey

      Yes, but Romney isn’t blameless in that. He is a good man with a reserved and polite personality, so attacking doesn’t come natural to him nor bragging nor firing up a crowd. That combined with some recent bad unforced errors leaves voters looking elsewhere. I think this, and I LIKE Mitt Romney.

      • TheLogicalLeft

        And Obama isn’t?

        • Fitzwdarcey

          Isn’t what?

  • https://twitter.com/#!/PD_Scott Scott A. Robinson, Editor

    “I wish they would all grow up and get busy focusing on this country.” No kidding. But we should totally bring back the cheering section at the debates.

    • TheLogicalLeft

      D-Fence! D-Fence! Oh wait sorry…I switched the channel to watch some College Football.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/PD_Scott Scott A. Robinson

    “I wish they would all grow up and get busy focusing on this country.” No kidding. But we should totally bring back the cheering section at the debates.

    • TheLogicalLeft

      D-Fence! D-Fence! Oh wait sorry…I switched the channel to watch some College Football.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/PD_Scott Scott A. Robinson, Editor

    “I sometimes wonder if the Republicans are trying to elect a cable news host.” Amen to that.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/PD_Scott Scott A. Robinson

    “I sometimes wonder if the Republicans are trying to elect a cable news host.” Amen to that.

  • https://twitter.com/#!/PD_Scott Scott A. Robinson, Editor

    “Are you telling me I have to cover this until the convention?” I hate my job!

  • https://twitter.com/#!/PD_Scott Scott A. Robinson

    “Are you telling me I have to cover this until the convention?” I hate my job!