Today’s open thread

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Filed Under Open Thread on Oct 27 

Keep it PG please, and if it gets too intellectual, we reserve the right to mock you.

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  • Jacosta

    The only people that give Paul any serious credibility at winning anything is his merry band of Paulites….not one political pundit, commentator, journalist, GOP strategist gives Paul (or any of the lower tier candidates) a chance. Must be the kool-aid his people are drinking! Now, dos that mean I don’t like Paul…NO! I like and agree with a lot of his views….but some of which I wholeheartedly disagree with that keep me from backing him. But, with the lack of substance is a great lack of style that he just does not have!

    • Brian H

      I agree 100%. My fear is however that Paul’s addiction to the campaign trail will move him to make an absurd 3rd party run. If he does this he will only further move his flock further into the fringer category.

    • Rob

      Last I checked Paul has as much chance as anybody else at winning. The only people who say otherwise are the frightened, biased, neo-con leftovers who will do anything to keep this country in the gutter by electing another puppet leader.

      • Brian H

        Really, Rob? Really?

        I respect your committent to your horse, however, your political analysis is more based on wishful thinking than it is practical outcomes.

        • Rob

          And your political analysis is more based on your blatant bias against a certain candidate, so we both have our issues.

        • http://www.politicalderby.com/ Jason Wright, Editor

          Brian, your susceptibility to fall into Rob’s traps never ceases to amaze me :)

          • Promise Kept

            Rob and I each have our own appreciation for Brian’s unique powers of perception. It’s a gift we are glad to help him develop and refine. ;-)

          • Brian H

            Ron had me at hello.

            • Brian H

              Rob.

    • Promise Kept

      The only people that say Paul shouldn’t be taken too seriously are the ones heavily vested in any candidate they want to distance from having to make any statements of real distance from any of Paul’s stances and standards.

      With the world teetering over the edge of economic disaster, this race is really all about which candidate is poised to tackle our role in saving our ship-of-state from that iceberg.

      It’s the very foundation of our Liberty that We own ourselves and our property despite whatever politician, corporate head, pontiff, prophet, or banker says differently, simply because We have to answer to God for what He has given us, and what We have done with His gifts.

  • Brian H

    I have no intention of eating pizza at this time. I have no intention of eating rat meat ever. I watched the tv portion of the interview and was extremely impressed with Paul on domestic policy, extremely afraid of Paul on foreign policy. Yet, when I hear he did not shoot down the idea of running as a third party, it just further deepens my belief that Paul has grown addicted to the fellow traveling flock that “kneel before Zod.”

    • Rob

      Not sure what you’re missing here. Why should he shoot it down now? He’s in the top 3 in the majority of the early voting states and there hasn’t been a primary yet. If he has no success in those, then he can think about a 3rd party run. Same thing he said over and over and over again in 2008 and he didn’t do a 3rd party run.

  • Brian H

    Paul said yesterday he would not rule out a third party run in 2012. Look for the continual Ron Paul candidacy to continue until he helps re-elect Obama.

    • Rob

      Actually what he said is “he has no intention of doing that at this time” which is exactly what he said in 2008.

  • Jacosta

    It’s difficult to gauge the top 2-3 in any given poll because of sometimes how close those top 2-3 are….while ONLY strongly considering Romney and Cain at this point…but for the life of me – it is definitely time for Huntsman, Bachmann, Santorum and Gingrich to get out! Perry should be listening for his exit as well!

  • Jacosta

    Wolf Blitzer announced on CNN that a new CNN (in partner with either ABC or Rasmussen?) poll shows Romney now in the lead in Iowa as of yesterday…about 3-4 percentage points ahead of Cain…and everyone else way down there. Seems Perry’s Flat Tax is not helping him as he is way down in the polls still in Iowa, New Hampshire, and Florida…g’bye Rick!

    • Rob

      These are the polls:

      New CNN polls today. Paul 3rd in Iowa, SC and NH.

      Iowa: Romney 24% Cain 21% Paul 12% Perry 10% Gingrich 10% Bachmann 6%, Santorum 2%

      South Carolina: Romney 25% Cain 23% Paul 12% Perry 11% Gingrich 8% Bachmann 4% Huntsman 1% Santorum 1%

      NH: Romney 40%, Cain 13%, Paul 12%, Huntsman 6%, Gingrich 5%, Perry 4%, Bachmann 2%, Santorum 1%

      Florida: Romney 30%, Cain 18%, Gingrich and Perry 9%, Paul 6%, Bachmann 4%, Huntsman 1%, Santorum 1%

  • VA Gael

    I have a concern that I haven’t seen addressed anywhere else. How do you all think Herman Cain’s 9% federal sales tax proposal on top of state sales tax will affect the already struggling small independent retail businesses?

    • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

      If Cain were capable of explaining the proposal correctly, retailers (small and large) would potentially be excited about it.

      You cannot simply say Herman’s Cain’s sales tax is 9% plus Tennessee’s (for example’s sake) sales tax is 9%, therefore all prices are 18% higher than I’m used to paying. The key factor to the consumption tax being effective is how it works in cooperation with the reduced corporate income tax.

      If corporate income tax were reduced form 35% to 9%, prices of most commodity-type products (the fair tax crowd does not make this distinction, but I think it is important) would likely reduce by more than 9%, as companies are competing on prices. As this happens, the base price of goods will reduce more than the 9% sales tax would increase the price.

      In other words, all retailers could potentially benefit from the plan implemented completely. Though I would argue specialty or niche shops would not see the significant cost decrease from their suppliers because there is no reason to reduce cost when price is not the most significant buying factor.

      • Brian H

        Scott. I continue to hear people say prices will drop, but, that is merely speculation and many economists have said in fact that prices will not drop. There is no guarantee that prices would drop.

        So. Without speculation. The truth is that a 9% national consumption tax is in addition to any state sales tax that already exists.

        • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

          Which is why I make the distinction between commodity and non-commodity products.

  • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

    Maybe we should discuss Agent Smith’s comments on Mitt Romney’s eventual nomination.

    You hear that Mr. Republican Candidate? That is the sound of inevitability. It is the sound of your campaign’s death.

    • Alaina Segovia

      Not conceding…

    • DW

      Mitt will be nominated a the VP?

  • RickyD

    anyone see the thing on politico about vp’s? i think he’s still got it locked down if he wants it

    http://www.politico.com/arena/

    • Alaina Segovia

      I don’t think Rubio was hurt by the Post story. They never provided a transcript or otherwise where Rubio said his parents were fled Cuba at that time.
      .
      As for VP, I’m sure he has it if he wants it, but he doesn’t want it. On O’Reilly the other day he gave a very definitive no… He said it didn’t matter who the nominee is, he is not going to be VP.