In case you missed it:

Fifty three percent of likely Arizona voters are concerned that the state’s tough new law targeting illegal immigrants will also be used to violate the civil rights of United States citizens.

The majority of them support it anyway.

Such is the state of the state of Arizona, where frustration is the official state emotion and our official nickname?

With one stroke of a pen it was changed Friday from Grand Canyon State to Police State.

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  • Montana

    GR/ BH/ TLM:
    Thanks for the laughs, the Arizona Republican Party is at the mercy of the Tea Party / Bither/ Blowhards Conservative that said nothing and did nothing while Bush and the Republican Congress were getting the country into deeper and deeper trouble. The conservatives who organize the Tea Party/ Bither protests sat on their hands and did nothing. They did nothing when the balanced budget was destroyed by Bush, nothing when Bush exploded the deficit, nothing when Bush cut taxes instead of raising them to pay for the two wars he started. So honestly who cares what your small group says or wants you are a bunch of phonies who came late to the party, game over.

  • Rusty Shackleford


    Brian I don’t need to post anymore, your speaking for me just fine.

  • Alaina

    As a Texan, the one of the biggest problems that I see is that police/border patrol can’t do their jobs without the ACLU or some other liberal organization breathing down their necks and calling them a racist.

    I have decided what to make of the law yet, as I’ve only heard peripherally what’s in it, but SOMETHING has to be done.

    Mrs. Rusty is right. It’s unbelievably dangerous anywhere near the border. When I was in college, we used to go to Acuna (across the border from Del Rio, TX) to go drinking (you only had to be 18, it cost $10 to get in a club and there drinks were free for the rest of the night). There’s no way anyone would go down there these days. Everyone heard of the AZ rancher getting killed. Guess what, the media just happened to pick up that story and run with it. There are a lot of other similar instances happening every day.

    I don’t believe it’s racial profiling. Kind of like I don’t believe searching a Muslim over a 90 year old granny in the airport is racial profiling.

  • East of Eden

    I think I’m the only one from Arizona here in the forum.

    I understand the frustration. Gov Brewer asked for help, and didn’t get it. The State took matters into their own hands. If Obama is so outraged by this he should stop giving pretty speeches in the Rose Garden and actually do something.

    To say that racial profiling will now be the norm really does a disservice to the law enforcement offricers of the state. What the law allows is for law enforcement to acutally do their jobs and to keep people safe.

  • Mrs Rusty Shackleford

    The simple first look at this law is to say it is racist and the wrong way to go. BUT,it was going to have go this direction because we are at war with the Mexican drug cartel. I have friends who have family living on the Texas/New Mexico border that are hispanic that do not leave their boarded up house and now pay for armed (ak 47 armed) guards because of the cartel. I also have neighbors that are hispanic that use to travel back and forth regularly to visit family in Mexico and won’t now because it is too dangerous (kidnappings,murder,robbery). The federal government is doing nothing. Hate/Like Rick Perry, but he was right on one thing when he told the President several months ago to start doing something or he would deploy troops to the border.

    Brian is correct. There are MANY legal Mexican immigrants that despise the illegals. Our problem is the Mexican government not the Mexican people, but make no mistake, we are at war with the drug cartel and Arizona is putting a great big face on it and the Nation just might actually take notice. Hmmmm maybe that was the whole point. Not to keep the law but to shock and make something else be done. I wouldn’t be surprised if that is exactly the direction the Arizona governor has in mind.

  • Christopher Nutter

    I’ll say it again… this law is dreck.

    When I hear that the majority of Arizona citizens know that the law will be used against them by law enforcement but support it anyway, I can’t help but think of that famous quote from Benjamin Franklin:

    “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

  • Brian H

    This Arizona law is brilliant!!

    All we have to do now is get Obama to drive a car in AZ, have the police pull him over, ask him to provide proof of citizenship, and this whole “birther” thing that Hannah is obsessed with could be settled once and foe all.

    Does anyone else notice that the only people who ever talk about “birthers” and Obama’s legal status are leftist?

    • Troy La Mana

      Did you also notice that the easiest way to shut up the birthers would be to actually release the birth certificate?

      • Brian H

        I didn’t think of that. BRILLIANT!

  • Brian H

    I kind of like Nutters idea of wearing sloganized t-shirts…..

    “No Thanks. I have Health Insurance.”

    “Got Debt?”

    “$10 Trillion is a BIG F….ing Deal!”

    “My mother is a birther.”

    “Tea-Baggers are people too”

    “I am an American citizen….and can prove it.”

    • Red State Eddio

      Ha! Luv it! I’m gonna steal those…I mean put them to work in an undocumented way.

  • Troy La Mana

    Shut down a few bases in Europe and re-assign the troops to border and port patrol. Problem solved.

    Any drug runners who think they can shoot it out with a tank, be my guest.

  • Brian H

    What I know….or think I know.

    1) I have not read the law but what I have heard of it from the pundits suggests to me that law enforcement will have a difficult time enforcing it and it will likely be challenged…as most laws should be.

    2) 60% of the people in Arizona say they support this……60% of AZ is now white.

    3) Phoenix leads the world in kidnappings….WOW!

    4) Over 400,000 illegals in AZ

    5) AZ is a state that is in a state of desparation. Hard for me to critique the realities of life in AZ when I don’t have to live under the conditions of AZ.

    6) The Feds have once again failed us…as can most times be expected….which is why I believing in limiting its authority.

  • Christopher Nutter

    This law is a sick joke.

    I recommend that everyone who lives in Arizona who hates this bill as much as I do get “I am an Illegal Immigrant” bumper stickers, t-shirts and buttons.

    While this law is vicious, it also provides an opportunity for organizing.

    • Gary Russell

      Oh, yeah. That’ll show ‘em.
      Hey, you might want to give away a free handgun with that bumper sticker.
      ONE of the two items might serve a useful purpose.

      • Christopher Nutter


        Actually it could bog down the police and demonstrate the foolishness of the law… police are required to investigate when they have a reason to believe a person is illega.

        • Gary Russell

          It would sure demonstrate the foolishness of SOMETHING – like maybe the driver of the car, or wearer of the shirt.

          • Rob

            Anyone who agrees with this law is not a republican. That much is for sure.

            • Gary Russell

              Wow, Rob. Are you often sure of things that are so obviously false?

    • Troy La Mana

      I’d put a “Round em up and throw them back across the border” sticker on my car.

    • Brian H

      Hey, NUTTER. Do me slight favor, please.

      When you put on your “I am an illegal immigrant” t-shirt please where it on a quick visit to Texas. I could point you to a few barrios where that shirt will go over very nicely.

    • Red State Eddio

      Senor Nutter – Your bumper sticker et al should actually read “Yo soy un inmigrante ilegal.”

      Makes it more accurate and easy for the sheriffs to stop.

      • Christopher Nutter

        I don’t think it has to be “yo soy;” I think just “soy” would be fine.

        • Red State Eddio

          Sure, but part of the joke was that to say “yo” emphasizes the self (“me”), thus drawing more attention to the person who wants to remain in anonymity.

  • Montana

    Arizona can pass race base laws, pass Birthers laws and the state can continue to boycott Martin Luther King Day, well the rest of the Country can boycott the state of Arizona and spank them where it hurts them the most their pocket book. Their phony patriotism is sickening, they are just racists going by another name. We all know you are just itching to put a sheet on their head? Let’s face it the Republicans had eight years to deal with health care, immigration, climate change and financial oversight and governance and they failed. It appears that the Republican Party is only good at starting wars (two in eight years, with fat War profiteering contracts to friends of Cheney/Bush) but not at winning wars as seen by the continuing line of body bags that keep coming home. The Republicans party will continue turned inward to their old fashion obstructionist party (and their Confederacy appreciation roots) because they continue to allow a small portions (but very loud portion) of their party of “birthers, baggers and blowhards” to rule their party. I will admit that this fringe is very good at playing “Follow the Leader” by listening to their dullard leaders, Beck, Hedgecock, Hannity, O’Reilly, Rush, Savage, Sarah Bailin, Orly Taitz, Victoria Jackson, Michele Bachmann and the rest of the Blowhards and acting as ill programmed robots (they have already acted against doctors that perform abortions). The Birthers and the Tea party crowd think they can scare, intimidate and force others to go along with them by comments like “This time we came unarmed”, let me tell you something not all ex-military join the fringe militia crazies who don’t pay taxes and run around with face paint in the parks playing commando, the majority are mature and understand that the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white that these simpleton make it out to be and that my friend is the point. The world is complicated and people like Hamilton, Lincoln, and Roosevelt believed that we should use government a little to increase social mobility, now it’s about dancing around the claim of government is the problem. The sainted Reagan passed the biggest tax increase in American history and as a result federal employment increased, but facts are lost when mired in mysticism and superstition. For a party that gave us Abraham Lincoln, it is tragic that the ranks are filled with too many empty suits and the crazy Birthers who have not learned that the way our courts work is that you get a competent lawyer, verifiable facts and present them to a judge, if the facts are real and not half baked internet lies, then, and only then, do you proceed to trial. The Birthers seem to be having a problem with their so called “facts”. Let’s face it no one will take the Birthers seriously until they win a case, but until then, you will continue to appear dumb, crazy or racist, or maybe all three. I heard that Orly Taitz now wants to investigate the “Republican 2009 Summer of Love” list: Assemblyman, Michael D. Duvall (CA), Senator John Ensign (NV), Senator Paul Stanley (TN), Governor Mark Stanford (SC), Board of Ed Chair, and Kristin Maguire AKA Bridget Keeney (SC), she wants to re-establish a family values party, that’s like saying that the Catholic Church cares about the welling being of children in their care, too late for that.

    • Gary Russell

      I started reading your diatribe…became annoyed by your name calling…lost interest when it became obvious that you and facts aren’t on a first name speaking basis.
      Hate much?

    • Brian H

      Hey, Hannah.

      The only “birther” I have ever met is my mom.

      For a person who believes “the world is more complicated and grey than the black and white” simpletons make it out to be you sure don’t seem to mind partaking in a few “black and white” generalities yourself.

      Perhaps you are a “simpleton” as well…..welcome to the club.

    • Troy La Mana

      This Liberal/Progessive upchuck brought to you by the DNC. The Arizona law closely follows federal law. The article is right in one respect, if the government had done it’s constitutionally mandated job of protecting the borders then Arizona wouldn’t have had to do their job for them.

    • Rusty Shackleford


      I sell Tin Hats, perhaps I could interest you in one?!?