It like the bak up QB on every team…he is always the most popular guy on the team.

You claim that a third party, or no party, candidate can win in this country, yet, it has NEVER been done. Not even close.

I would love to have a Brian H political party in this country, unfortunately, for me, If I am going to exercise my vote it will be for a person who I agree with the most that has a chance of obtaining the position.

I am no BIG McCain fan, but, it amazes me that people could live through the first 8 months of Obama and not recognize that a McCain POTUS would look much different than what we have.

I understand why you are clearly so angry, Shawn. Your support goes to candidates who at the end of the day garnish less total votes than the attendance level at an NFL football game. Your lack of participation in the political process is frustrating to me, I can only imagine how you must feel. Even Ron Paul figured out that if he were to ever be a serious candidate it would have to be done from within one of the two major political parties.

Man, you are good, even if you inserted false assumptions and totally avoided the heart of the argument in each post. You should be hired on by the GOP to start a Libertarian outreach group. Your acerbic wit, condescension, and total lack of respect for those who would otherwise call you a friend is inspiring to me. If you branched out into ad hominem attacks, say like calling Libertarians kooks, your mission here would be done!

Great job Brian! Another GOP convert won over. I can’t wait to vote for Huckabee in the next election!

A third party or no-party candidates with the right messages can win in the country. However, the Rs and the Ds will protect their territory by trying to tell everyone that such a vote is a wasted vote. As if the Rs or Ds represent any of us as it is.

So my solution is to be true to yourself, to vote for the person of your conscience, who most closely reflects your values. Otherwise you are part of the problem.

Or to use your analogy, open your own restaurant and built up the clientele until your patrons believe in you. If you’re not that adventurous, go with Chick-fil-a. You’ll get a differentiated, quality product at a store that follows principles first, being closed on the Sabbath, forgoing their revenue.

I like the sound of that. Thanks.

First of all John McCain was not my top choice, either in the Primary. John McCain was not “selected” by the GOP, he won the primary. The choice I had on November 4, 2008 was a choice between one of two individuals who were going to be POTUS.

LOL. If you think voting for a third party candidate who will garnish less than .05% of the total vote is “calculating” then there is not anything I could I ever say to you convince you otherwide. HAHA I know it makes you feel special to enter chatrooms and position yourself as being somehow more enlightened because you are above the fray of party politics, so I enjoy.

Where on this website are the “horses” listed for the third party contenders? Why are you not demanding that the editors of this site include such glorious horses in the mix?

“I prefer to vote for a conservative that will lose than a pretend conservative who gives lip service to my values.”

So who is the “conservative” you supported in the primary?

You have every right in the world to stand in in line for hours to push the button for a person who at the end of the day will have as many electors, and almost as many actual votes, as me. But, the truth is most of you don’t bother showing up at all anyway to support your so called “alternative” candidates. Which is why they continue to get less than 1% election after election.

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!! Your efforts are working brilliantly!

If you want me and millions like me to help your party out, then simply put up or shut up. Electing liberals and then whining when you don’t get conservative support is counterproductive. Most of us are tired of hearing “ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES” come out of your mouth (keyboard?) like you are some great Greek God of Wisdom sitting on top of Mount Olympus. You act as if the GOP ran some ultra conservative that we were crazy-in-the-head not to vote for. We are not stupid as you insinuate. Voting for “George Washington” or “Ronald Regan” is a cute thing to say but a bit insulting. We are every bit as calculating in our vote as you are in yours and we vote for real candidates that reflect our values whether they can win or not. I prefer to vote for a conservative that will lose than a pretend conservative who gives lip service to my values and then turns around and takes us down the same path we are on today.

Obama, McCain, McCain, Obama. Little difference, same result. One is just a faster slide down that liberal slope than the other.

If you can’t understand what our objection was and is with McCain, even though you may disagree with our methods, then you are part of what we see wrong with the GOP.

Then I suppose you’re fine with more of the same. Because that is all you are ever going to get with the parties as they stand today. Their only goal is power, not the best interests of the American public.

I did vote for the best candidate. I voted for the best candidate who had a feasable chance of actually obtaining the office. If I had chosen to vote for the “best” candidate, regardless of the fact that they would have no chance of winning, I would have voted for George Washington or Ronald Reagan.

The “Independents” who helped put Obama in office are learning quite quickly how radical he is and how his America is far from theirs.

YES!!!!

A good read about what communism really is like is “The Truth That Killed” by Georgi Markov. He was killed for writing this book. It’s 30 years old, but so appropriate for today.

As for the Republicans…

They took freedoms from us with the Patriot Act.

They increased government substantially. George Bush never vetoed a spending bill, the worst being the prescription entitlement.

They are the ones who opened the door for the current administration with TARP and overnight auto industry bailouts.

You really think they are any better? The morons are all power-hungry cousins, desiring the people to be beholden to the almighty government.

Voting for the party that “Is not as bad as the other guys” is not good enough for me. If you want to call it throwing away my vote by not voting for these clowns, so be it. I would rather stand for something than stand against something.

If you think standing behind the Republicans because they are marginally better than the democrats is the right thing to do, then you should only expect marginal improvement in our country. The Republicans started spending us into oblivion. The Democrats intend to finish it.

We need fiscally responsible true representatives, regardless of the letter by their name. Sure, I’ll vote for a Republican, or a Democrat, or anything else if their values match mine and I am confident they will vote according to their values and not the party line. Party line voting has nearly eliminated the Legislature’s equal power as part of our system of checks and balances.

Obama has achieved many things in his first eight months…..

1. He has brought the nation together……mostly against his policies.

2. He has achieved his goal of creating a politically active citizenry from the grassroots…..mostly against his policies.

3. He has shown that his CIA Director, Leon Panetta, was a good pick to lead the CIA……..mostly against his policies.

ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!

Maybe after four years of this the Republicans who threw tantrums and the so called “Libertarians” who sacrificed their vote on silly third party candidates will wake up to the reality that who wins and loses elections actually matters. What we are living through now demonstrates that there is a difference between the two major parties. Many of us have tried to point this out all along but are accused of carrying the water for the GOP. They were right! I have, and will continue to, carry the water for the GOP as long not doing so means that Communist and Socialist will govern our nation into the ground.

It’s the whole party and mentality. He is now the perfect Democratic representative. HE IS A VICTIM!! He has been persecuted. AHHH poor thing.

We are a divided country. DIVIDED I know what side I am on. Not on their mental trip side for sure!

Sorry for the MSN link. It just stood out with Dean’s quote. I know how wonderful they are and all! Not

I submit to you that the evidence is in place. He refuses to disassociate himself from this Communist, even now when he has ever opportunity. It seems clear they he intends to create a scenario to use the entire democratic process for “transform the United States of America” to an Oligarchy.

I wrote about this on September 1:

What is being built in America is the same system built in the United Kingdom. There the NHS has become the world’s third largest employer (UK total population: 61 million) behind only the Chinese Red Army (China total population: 1.34 billion) and the Indian Railroad (India total population: 1.17 billion). As in the UK, our government is building a voting block that will keep them in power, where their irrelevant “Republican” and “Democrat” squabbling will make many Americans feel like there is something important going on. When in reality these are nothing more than cousins having a family dispute. However, once the government controls over half the economy, it will be impossible to vote out those in power, as people will not vote for someone (or some party) they see as a threat to their livelihood, regardless of how moral or immoral they may be.

In this situation, unless the Glen-Beck-led forest fire had not smoked VJ out, Obama WOULD HAVE continued to use him in the green jobs area.

Couple the health care scenario with this, and what does it all tell you about Obama’s discernment and leadership?