The troubling side of Van Jones’ resignation

By Scott A. Robinson, Editor

Filed Under Domestic Policy on Sep 6 

Today widespread stories on Van Jones’ resignation have circulated. CNN, FOX News, and many others have similar articles confirming that when asked on “Meet the Press” whether President Obama ordered Jones’ firing, Obama’s senior adviser David Axelrod said: “Absolutely not. This was Van Jones’ own decision.”

President Obama’s closest adviser has told us that even though it is widely known that Van Jones is a communist, a position Jones refuses to recant, President Obama did not desire to fire him! This seemingly unimportant detail shows us that the President condones radicals and communists when he had every opportunity through this situation to condemn these systems of belief! In fact, White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said that President Obama “thanks him for his service to the country”. Seriously, the President believes that a man whose goal is revolution resulting in communism by using the levers of race and green has actually served our country?

Communism is a great evil and our President refuses to disassociate himself from it. I cannot think of anything more troubling. We should all hit the floor with our knees immediately and pray for our country. Do not wait. We need the power and protection of God to defend our Republic.

Comments

  • bharrist

    According to the logic of Shawn I have decided to always vote for the candidate who shares ALL my values, regardless of their ability to actually get the job. Therefor, I have decided to always cast my vote for the one candidate whome I agree with 100% of the time…..ME! I will write-in my name in all future elections! Why not, I will be “voting my conscience”.

    • Shawn Naegle

      Your astute use of hyperbole has convinced me to vote for the GOP in the next election. I don’t care if you guys resurrect Karl Marx from the dead, if he has an “R” by his name, I’m pullin’ the lever!

      Man, you are good, even if you inserted false assumptions and totally avoided the heart of the argument in each post. You should be hired on by the GOP to start a Libertarian outreach group. Your acerbic wit, condescension, and total lack of respect for those who would otherwise call you a friend is inspiring to me. If you branched out into ad hominem attacks, say like calling Libertarians kooks, your mission here would be done!

      Great job Brian! Another GOP convert won over. I can’t wait to vote for Huckabee in the next election!

      • Brian H

        Maybe you should read your own posts. I believe the “ad hominem attacks” came from you. I have yet to attack anyone in this blog on a personal level, as you so clearly did to me.

        I understand why you are clearly so angry, Shawn. Your support goes to candidates who at the end of the day garnish less total votes than the attendance level at an NFL football game. Your lack of participation in the political process is frustrating to me, I can only imagine how you must feel. Even Ron Paul figured out that if he were to ever be a serious candidate it would have to be done from within one of the two major political parties.

  • Brian H

    Unfortunately, what happens does matter…..as we are living through now should prove.

    I did vote for the best candidate. I voted for the best candidate who had a feasable chance of actually obtaining the office. If I had chosen to vote for the “best” candidate, regardless of the fact that they would have no chance of winning, I would have voted for George Washington or Ronald Reagan.

    The “Independents” who helped put Obama in office are learning quite quickly how radical he is and how his America is far from theirs.

    • Shawn Naegle

      Yes, elections have consequences, and perhaps the election that had the most consequence, and the one you should be lamenting, was the GOP Primary that selected McCain. Your party gave up their right to lay claim to my vote by electing a liberal Democrat in Republican clothing.

      If you want me and millions like me to help your party out, then simply put up or shut up. Electing liberals and then whining when you don’t get conservative support is counterproductive. Most of us are tired of hearing “ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES” come out of your mouth (keyboard?) like you are some great Greek God of Wisdom sitting on top of Mount Olympus. You act as if the GOP ran some ultra conservative that we were crazy-in-the-head not to vote for. We are not stupid as you insinuate. Voting for “George Washington” or “Ronald Regan” is a cute thing to say but a bit insulting. We are every bit as calculating in our vote as you are in yours and we vote for real candidates that reflect our values whether they can win or not. I prefer to vote for a conservative that will lose than a pretend conservative who gives lip service to my values and then turns around and takes us down the same path we are on today.

      Obama, McCain, McCain, Obama. Little difference, same result. One is just a faster slide down that liberal slope than the other.

      If you can’t understand what our objection was and is with McCain, even though you may disagree with our methods, then you are part of what we see wrong with the GOP.

      • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

        So Shawn, are you saying that elections have consequences? :-)

      • bharrist

        “you are some great Greek God of Wisdom sitting on top of Mount Olympus.”

        I like the sound of that. Thanks.

        First of all John McCain was not my top choice, either in the Primary. John McCain was not “selected” by the GOP, he won the primary. The choice I had on November 4, 2008 was a choice between one of two individuals who were going to be POTUS.

        LOL. If you think voting for a third party candidate who will garnish less than .05% of the total vote is “calculating” then there is not anything I could I ever say to you convince you otherwide. HAHA I know it makes you feel special to enter chatrooms and position yourself as being somehow more enlightened because you are above the fray of party politics, so I enjoy.

        Where on this website are the “horses” listed for the third party contenders? Why are you not demanding that the editors of this site include such glorious horses in the mix?

        “I prefer to vote for a conservative that will lose than a pretend conservative who gives lip service to my values.”

        So who is the “conservative” you supported in the primary?

        You have every right in the world to stand in in line for hours to push the button for a person who at the end of the day will have as many electors, and almost as many actual votes, as me. But, the truth is most of you don’t bother showing up at all anyway to support your so called “alternative” candidates. Which is why they continue to get less than 1% election after election.

        KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!! Your efforts are working brilliantly!

        • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

          Regardless of his politics, have you already forgotten about Ross Perot? He earned what, 19-20% of the popular vote in 2002 and polled as high as 35-40%?

          A third party or no-party candidates with the right messages can win in the country. However, the Rs and the Ds will protect their territory by trying to tell everyone that such a vote is a wasted vote. As if the Rs or Ds represent any of us as it is.

          • Brian H

            Scott. Perot proves my point. Perot got 19% of the popular vote and ended up with as many electors as you and I……ZERO. Had Perot challenged GHW Bush within the GOP primary he might have won and been able to challenge Clinton in the General. Enen with his vast poularity Perot literally came as close to being POTUS as I did. How is that good politics or strategy. I agree with the concept of “vote the bums out”….in the primaries, but, when the primaries are over one must then decide out of the potential reasonable candidtates, who they support the most. It is often the lesser of two evils, but that is life. Life is often faced with choices that are not ideal, but must be made out of reasonable logic.

            You claim that a third party, or no party, candidate can win in this country, yet, it has NEVER been done. Not even close.

            I would love to have a Brian H political party in this country, unfortunately, for me, If I am going to exercise my vote it will be for a person who I agree with the most that has a chance of obtaining the position.

            I am no BIG McCain fan, but, it amazes me that people could live through the first 8 months of Obama and not recognize that a McCain POTUS would look much different than what we have.

            • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

              Coming out of nowhere, with no political steam, as exists today, Perot garnered 19% of the vote. I find an alternative candidate in today’s political environment quite feasible.

              • bharrist

                Political parties have to have the state by state orgainization to win ANY electors, Scott. If we did not have the Electoral College it would be quite reasonable for someone to make such a run. Reality dictates that one must win electors to ever get elected POTUS. People so often fall in love with the concept of “third parties” but they fail to recognize the fact that they can’t win. EVER.

                It like the bak up QB on every team…he is always the most popular guy on the team.

      • Troy La Mana

        I was looking towards Fred Thompson or Ron Paul. If you look back at what Ron Paul campaigned on you can see he would have been a great help in turning this economy around. Instead of a 9 Trillion dollar debt we would have been close to budget neutral and well on the way to a surplus.

        • Brian H

          I liked Fred as well Troy but the guys had, or showed, no desire to campaign for the job. I wonder of the guy is even awake yet after the long nap he took during the campaign. It is not the fault of the GOP voters that Fred chose to run such an uninspiring campaign. I agree that with much of what Paul has to say and you are probably right about his eco policies. Paul did the right thing by becoming a serious candidate instead of opting into the continued world of the 1% fringes.

  • Brian H

    “You really think they (GOP) are any better?”

    YES!!!!

    • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

      Brian,

      Then I suppose you’re fine with more of the same. Because that is all you are ever going to get with the parties as they stand today. Their only goal is power, not the best interests of the American public.

      • bharrist

        And your solution is what? Would it be responsible to of me to pretend that there is no difference? McDonalds and Burger King both sell foods that are bad for me, both are similar in their prices…but…there is a difference, nonetheless. If those are my only two options…a choice will be made. Starving myself and acting like a martyr fasting in a prison will not do me any good, will it?

        • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

          We will never vote in a change of leadership until we all have the guts to vote for those who actually agree with us most of the time, rather than the lessor of two evils.

          So my solution is to be true to yourself, to vote for the person of your conscience, who most closely reflects your values. Otherwise you are part of the problem.

          Or to use your analogy, open your own restaurant and built up the clientele until your patrons believe in you. If you’re not that adventurous, go with Chick-fil-a. You’ll get a differentiated, quality product at a store that follows principles first, being closed on the Sabbath, forgoing their revenue.

          • JE

            Not to nitpick, but chick fil-a is closed on sunday, not the sabbath (saturday). Yeah, we can argue the finer points of christian sabbath vs jewish…but i gotta pick at that one a little. :)
            On another note, the BK mcD’s analogy is flawed in that if i get sick every time i eat beef, i would be an idiot if i kept eating there and was surprised that i kept getting sick.

  • http://twitter.com/theatomicmom East of Eden

    Having lived in a communist country, I can say I know for myself that it’s a bad system. Anyone that really wants it has either never lived under communism, or hopes to be part of the ruling class and therefore not deal with the realites of communism.

    A good read about what communism really is like is “The Truth That Killed” by Georgi Markov. He was killed for writing this book. It’s 30 years old, but so appropriate for today.

  • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

    I still cannot support the GOP. They have lost their way. I don’t know that I can support a party, considering that the purpose of a part is to acquire power. I will support people whose values match mine.

    As for the Republicans…

    They took freedoms from us with the Patriot Act.

    They increased government substantially. George Bush never vetoed a spending bill, the worst being the prescription entitlement.

    They are the ones who opened the door for the current administration with TARP and overnight auto industry bailouts.

    You really think they are any better? The morons are all power-hungry cousins, desiring the people to be beholden to the almighty government.

    Voting for the party that “Is not as bad as the other guys” is not good enough for me. If you want to call it throwing away my vote by not voting for these clowns, so be it. I would rather stand for something than stand against something.

    If you think standing behind the Republicans because they are marginally better than the democrats is the right thing to do, then you should only expect marginal improvement in our country. The Republicans started spending us into oblivion. The Democrats intend to finish it.

    We need fiscally responsible true representatives, regardless of the letter by their name. Sure, I’ll vote for a Republican, or a Democrat, or anything else if their values match mine and I am confident they will vote according to their values and not the party line. Party line voting has nearly eliminated the Legislature’s equal power as part of our system of checks and balances.

  • Brian H

    We are only 8 months into this thing and this…..WOW!

    Obama has achieved many things in his first eight months…..

    1. He has brought the nation together……mostly against his policies.

    2. He has achieved his goal of creating a politically active citizenry from the grassroots…..mostly against his policies.

    3. He has shown that his CIA Director, Leon Panetta, was a good pick to lead the CIA……..mostly against his policies.

  • Brian H

    Shall I say it again?

    ELECTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES!!!

    Maybe after four years of this the Republicans who threw tantrums and the so called “Libertarians” who sacrificed their vote on silly third party candidates will wake up to the reality that who wins and loses elections actually matters. What we are living through now demonstrates that there is a difference between the two major parties. Many of us have tried to point this out all along but are accused of carrying the water for the GOP. They were right! I have, and will continue to, carry the water for the GOP as long not doing so means that Communist and Socialist will govern our nation into the ground.

    • Troy La Mana

      No matter what happens you NEVER throw away your vote by voting for the person you think is the best candidate.

  • Mrs Rusty Shackleford

    “Howard Dean, former head of the Democratic National Committee, told “Fox News Sunday” that he thought Jones “was brought down” and that his resignation was “a loss to the country.” ”
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32712017/ns/politics-white_house/?GT1=43001
    Are you kidding me? A LOSS to the country?

    It’s the whole party and mentality. He is now the perfect Democratic representative. HE IS A VICTIM!! He has been persecuted. AHHH poor thing.

    We are a divided country. DIVIDED I know what side I am on. Not on their mental trip side for sure!

    Sorry for the MSN link. It just stood out with Dean’s quote. I know how wonderful they are and all! Not

  • Red State Eddio

    Think this one over: If the Dems had bullrushed the monstrosity known as Health Care Reform to Obama before the August break, he WOULD HAVE signed it..I repeat – he WOULD HAVE signed it. So the bill that 60-70% of Americans oppose, he WOULD HAVE SIGNED into law.

    In this situation, unless the Glen-Beck-led forest fire had not smoked VJ out, Obama WOULD HAVE continued to use him in the green jobs area.

    Couple the health care scenario with this, and what does it all tell you about Obama’s discernment and leadership?

    • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

      You raise the correct point. I think the more important question is what is Obama’s overall plan, considering he would still sign a healthcare bill that a majority of American oppose?

      I submit to you that the evidence is in place. He refuses to disassociate himself from this Communist, even now when he has ever opportunity. It seems clear they he intends to create a scenario to use the entire democratic process for “transform the United States of America” to an Oligarchy.

      I wrote about this on September 1:

      What is being built in America is the same system built in the United Kingdom. There the NHS has become the world’s third largest employer (UK total population: 61 million) behind only the Chinese Red Army (China total population: 1.34 billion) and the Indian Railroad (India total population: 1.17 billion). As in the UK, our government is building a voting block that will keep them in power, where their irrelevant “Republican” and “Democrat” squabbling will make many Americans feel like there is something important going on. When in reality these are nothing more than cousins having a family dispute. However, once the government controls over half the economy, it will be impossible to vote out those in power, as people will not vote for someone (or some party) they see as a threat to their livelihood, regardless of how moral or immoral they may be.

      • Brian H

        I can’t imagine anyone living through the first 8 months of this administration and not recognizing that their truly is a difference between the Republicans and Democrats. The may be cousins, but they are quite distant cousins…..at best. Any silly flirtations with “third party” candidates should be over after this display. If people haven’t chosen a side by now…they never will.

        • http://scottslant.blogspot.com/ Scott A. Robinson

          Why does it have to be the R side or the D side? I believe they are both wrong.

          • JE

            I second you on that one Scott. The current political parties do not align one bit with the founders ideas. A little socialism (bush) vs rapid socialism (obama) is still socialism. Or to use the correct definition, fascism (Government controlled captalism). Give me liberty or give me death. I will pass on the current R and D options.

  • Troy La Mana

    SSDD for the Obamanation.