Are you a god?

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Filed Under General on Mar 21 

After watching President Obama read his teleprompter soliloquy to the Iranian regime, I was reminded of the great scene in Ghostbusters in which the naïve, Dr. Ray Stantz (Dan Aykroyd), tells the evil demon, Gozer, what she is to do next.

Ray Stantz: “As a duly designated representative of the city, county, and state of New York, I order you to cease any and all supernatural activity and return forthwith to your place of origin, or to the nearest convenient parallel dimension.”

Dr. Peter Venkman: “That ought to do it, thanks very much Ray.”

President Obama: “The United States wants the Islamic Republic of Iran to take its rightful place in the community of nations. You have that right — but it comes with real responsibilities, and that place cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization. And the measure of that greatness is not the capacity to destroy, it is your demonstrated ability to build and create.”

That ought to do it, thanks very much Barry.

Are you a god?

Obama to Iran

President Obama believes his skills as a teleprompter reading orator, the skill-set that got him elected President, will be all that is needed to create an ever-lasting economic and foreign peace on earth. Good luck.

Comments

  • Alaina Segovia

    “So its not very stunning, that some ask, why you should have nukes and them not. You gave the answer. Not very satisfying.”

    You may not like it, but that’s reality and I prefer to live life based on reality.

  • German Observer

    Brian, Alaina!

    “The reason the western world is justified in determining who can obtain nukes is because we have the power to exercise that authority.”

    “It all goes back to playground rules… whoever is bigger and stronger gets to tell everyone else what to do.”

    Awesome sentences with great truth. Print it out, put it in a frame and place it above your bed. And, in the unlikely case, taht you ever ask yourself the question “why do they hate us?” have a loook on it and you’ll have a large part of the answer.

    The justification for American exceptionalism is not grounded on any form of moral, but on sheer power. So its no wonder, that some in the world don’t like this idea.

    To make it perfectly clear, I don’t feel comfortable with the idea of nukes in the hands of a rotten regime either. And in a recent discussion with Red State Eddio I said, that I feel much closer to the US historically and culturally, than to most other parts of the world (though personally I have some Arab roots). And that is what I mean. But to play the devils advocate here, it was the US, who used the bomb twice with out urgent need, it was the US who supported quite a lot of the bad guys (from Saddam, to Mobutu, to Pinochet and on and on) and it was the US, who struggled the most wars – some for noble reasons, some not. So its not very stunning, that some ask, why you should have nukes and them not. You gave the answer. Not very satisfying.

    • Brian H

      “it was the US, who used the bomb twice with out urgent need”

      WOW!

      Over 100,000 US troops were likely to die invading the Japanese mainland and you suggest that there was no “urgent” need. LOL. Do you not realize that the Japanese did not surrender after the first bomb was dropped. The Japanese were soooo dedicated to their cause that it took another bomb and th threat of more to come to finaly get them to surrender without conditions. Nice history.

      I never ask myself “why they hate us” because it is unimportant.

      I like the idea of printing the sentences out and placing them over my bed though.

      “American exceptionalism is not grounded on any form of moral, but on sheer power.”

      No nation in the history of the world has EVER shown more restraint with such power as America. The truth is, and you and I know it, that when and if a nation like Iran begins its plan of destruction it will be the USA that the world turns to clean up the mess that the European appeasment has created. Dont worry. As we always do, America will ignore the insults and attacks and do what is right.

  • Alaina Segovia

    GO –

    “So you feel weak because your president made a proposal to the people of Iran to restart the relationships and wished them a happy new year???”

    At some point, don’t you think it’s time to cut your loses? You said Roosevelt waited too long to get into WWII. How do you know we haven’t waited too long to do something about Iran? Unfortunately, we may not figure that out until it’s too late.

    “…to adress it directly to the Iranian people and not to their moronic leaders.”

    Nice thought, but the Iranian people aren’t the ones that pull the trigger on the nukes… that would be the moronic leaders.

    “There is no military option to prevent Iran from getting nukes.”

    I’m pretty sure we can just blow up their facilities.

    “Also: who is it, who decides, who may have nukes and who should not? The US? England? Germany?”

    That would be us. Seriously, do you really want a guy who says he wants to kill all Jews to have nukes?

    “Speaking about the art of diplomacy, I bet you went around with the Bush bumper stickers in those days. And where did his fine arts of diplomacy bring us? Are we safer? No, not at all. Too much John Wayne, way too less brain.”

    We’re not safer? We haven’t had a terrorist attack in almost 8 years. How many years do we have to do without a terrorist attack before you admit that we’re safer? 10? 20? 100?

    “Apart of that I still don’t see the justification of the western world to decide, who is eligable to have nukes and who is not.”

    It all goes back to playground rules… whoever is bigger and stronger gets to tell everyone else what to do.

    • German Observer

      “At some point, don’t you think it’s time to cut your loses? You said Roosevelt waited too long to get into WWII. How do you know we haven’t waited too long to do something about Iran? Unfortunately, we may not figure that out until it’s too late.”

      Situation is quite different, isn’t it? Then, Germany pushed the whole of Europe into war and had concentration camps, which the US-administration knew early. The only thing they had to do, was to destroy the railroads to the concentration camps, and they didn’t. What we do kow today, is that Iran is trying to get nukes and that they torture and kill members of the opposition (which unfortunately is not uncommon in the world and still we – the western world – have strong relationships with dictators and totallitarian regimes all over the world). Not enough for a military strike, far from it.

      “…to adress it directly to the Iranian people and not to their moronic leaders.”

      Nice thought, but the Iranian people aren’t the ones that pull the trigger on the nukes… that would be the moronic leaders.

      I see it more as an important symbolic act, not to adress it to the leaders in the first place, but to the people. Also, if you want to get rid of a pretty rotten regime in a pretty strong country like Iran, you can’t impose it from outside, but have to strengthen the opposition inside the country.

      “There is no military option to prevent Iran from getting nukes.”

      I’m pretty sure we can just blow up their facilities.

      I have no military experience at all and can’t judge it myself. But if it would be so easy I wonder why nobody has done it so far. All I hear from experts is, that the facilities are regionally to diverse to have a successful strike. I would be pretty worried about the reactions in the whole islamic world anyway.

      “Also: who is it, who decides, who may have nukes and who should not? The US? England? Germany?”

      That would be us. Seriously, do you really want a guy who says he wants to kill all Jews to have nukes?

      No, not at all. To be honest, I’d like nobody to have nukes. But to me the question also is, how much power Ahmadinejad really has. Its certainly not like, that he would have the red buttons and may use it as he wants. There is some more reasonable persons in the background.

      “We’re not safer? We haven’t had a terrorist attack in almost 8 years. How many years do we have to do without a terrorist attack before you admit that we’re safer? 10? 20? 100?”

      We already had this one. To count the years with out an attack is one measure (they didn’t take place in he US as I have to admit, but elsewhere they indeed did). To count the number of people, who would like to do attacks is another one. And this number increased rapidly over the past years. I think its a clever approach to try to melt down this number – for instance (but please, please, please not as the only measure) by saying happy new year everybody. The source for your insucirity (and ours in company) is the number of people who hate you. So don’t get them a reason.

  • Brian H

    How about Harry Reid as the Louis Tully (the gatekeeper)?

    • kristen

      So would that make Nancy Pelosi Dana Barrett (the keymaster?) It’s just bad news when those two get together.

  • Brian H

    GO.

    Gary Russell’s point is ell taken. Obama approaches foreign policy int he same way he approached community organizing. Gary’s statement was a serious point about this man’s inability to understand the art of diplomacy and not the art of community organizing.

  • Brian H

    You are right GO, they ALL use teleprompters when giving important adresses. They do not ALL use them just about every time they speak. He uses them to announce low level cabinet appointees. The great thing Obama has proven is that he a great campaigner. What he has yet to prove is that he is anything more than a great campaigner. Maybe if he stopped campaigning and started leading we would find out.

    Some countries will mistaken Obama’s reached out hand as being weak. I know I did.

    • German Observer

      “Some countries will mistaken Obama’s reached out hand as being weak. I know I did.”

      So you feel weak because your president made a proposal to the people of Iran to restart the relationships and wished them a happy new year??? Brian, this is the feelings of people with a minority complex.

      Strong people are able to reach their opponents their hands and propose to leave the struggles of the past behind. And I think this is the only way to deal the situation. Because in a way you are right, you are weak. In the sense that you are too weak to fight against Iran, Syria, North Korea, Iraq, Afganistan, Pakistan, Palestine, Lebanon and who else you consider to be opponents. You can’t have them all. And by the way, I feel Obama showed leadership by taking this step.

      • Brian H

        You think posting a message on youtube like a middle school girl is leadership?

        Please realize that the fact that I perceive his approach to diplomacy as being weak is completely insignificant. The fact that leadership of Iran and the rest of the Arab world will perceive it as weak is very significant. That is the problem with liberals. They believe that they can get people to comply with their wishes by speaking in niceties and platitudes. While Barry O. is creating his youtube video the Iranians are creating a nuclear arsenal to launch a world war in hopes of awakening the 12th Imam.

        If Obama’s approach works than I will stand corrected. If it fails innocent people will die.

      • Gary Russell

        Herr G.O.,

        What would your opinion of Lincoln be if he had extended the “hand of friendship” to Jefferson Davis?

        What would your opinion of Franklin Roosevelt be if he had extended the “hand of friendship” to Hitler?

        The art of diplomacy is exactly that – an “art”. Mr. Obama’s vast experience as a community organizer, a campaigner, and a bowler has obviously been negligent in training in this art.

      • German Observer

        Brian,
        yes I call it leadership to take the initiative, may it be on youtube or elsewhere. I also think its clever to put it on youtube (where else could he have placed it?) and to adress it directly to the Iranian people and not to their moronic leaders. I have a couple of friends with roots in Iran and on new-years day the all called their relatives. The reaction of the people in Iran is great sympathy unisono. They wished they had a president like this themselfes. And this is not a small sample of views, the blogossphere in Iran is very positive as a whole.

        Its nice, that you are willed to change your view, if Obama succeeds. The problem is, we don’t know how to measure success.

        Let me put it this way, I think your view on diplomacy is way too much influenced by John Wayne movies. Let’s be realistic, there is no military option to prevent Iran from getting nukes. So what do you do? Continue to call them the evil? And thus making them feel just the more they needed nukes? Or is it better to say, hey guys, there was some trouble between us, lets try to find some consensus now. In private relationships you can decide to quit the other person, divorce from your wife or whatever. In international relations you can’t ignore the others. And by the way, Obama didn’t offer Iran access to the pentagon or to Fort Knox, he just said some friendly words. Also: who is it, who decides, who may have nukes and who should not? The US? England? Germany? See it from the Iranian point of view: all this countries invaded more other countries in the past 500 years than Iran did, so why should thse forbid them to get the bomb?

        Herr Russell,
        funny, that you still use it as an argument, that Obama decided not to make the big cash, but work as a community organizer.

        Oh yes, and then you fetch the old Roosevelt out of the cupboard to prove that Obama’s approach is wrong. But thats pretty much apples and cucumbers. Every historic situation is different. No doubt Chamberlain was wrong to appease in Munich, but this was about stealing a country. And no doubt Roosevelt was right to enter WWII (and he did it much too late, as he had certain information before), but there was an actual war going on. Whats going on in Iran actually. Nothing comparable, so its right trying to find the riendly road. Speaking about the art of diplomacy, I bet you went around with the Bush bumper stickers in those days. And where did his fine arts of diplomacy bring us? Are we safer? No, not at all. Too much John Wayne, way too less brain.

        • Brian H

          Obama: ” I would like to speak to the people and leaders of Iran”.

          Who do you think he is speaking to, GO? The poeple have no power, he is clearly speaking to Irans leaders, that is the point of the video. The poeple of Iran are not the problem. Just looked what happened after the video was sent. Irans “leaders” immediately downplayed it and demanded that Obama follow up his nice talk with actions by removing the sanctions placed on Iran. WHAT A JOKE!

          America. We are in for a LOOONNNGGG four years.

          I have never watched a John Wayne movie but the typical European stereotype did not go unnoticed.

          • kristen

            Irans “leaders” immediately downplayed it and demanded that Obama follow up his nice talk with actions by removing the sanctions placed on Iran.

            All whilst speaking to a crowd chanting “Death to America”.

            Way to go Barry!

          • German Observer

            Brian, you miss about every point in my statement. So what else can I answer, than to repeat, that Iran is a reality, the axis-of-evil-approach obviously didn’t work well and Obama took a step that didn’t do any harm to anybody but offers a chance for better relationships. Apart of that I still don’t see the justification of the western world to decide, who is eligable to have nukes and who is not.

            • Brian H

              I’ll go out on a limb and suggest that the western world should not allow suicidal religious loons to obtain nuclear weapons to start WWIII so the 12th Imam can return.

              The reason the western world is justified in determining who can obtain nukes is because we have the power to exercise that authority. When that power can be utilized to deter regimes we feel will abuse that power we should use that power to stop them.

  • Troy La Mana

    Another indicator that we are in the Second Carter Administration.

  • JE

    And brian, love the reference. I will avoid the gratuitous comparison between al gore and the staypuft marshmallow man. :)

    • Brian H

      I pictured Al Gore was as the obnoxious environmentalist who made them shut their systems down.

      I picture Bill Clinton as Staypuft.

      • kristen

        LOL guys. Loving the analogies. At least Ray was humble enough to realize he wasn’t in fact a god; Obama is too arrogant to believe he is one.

      • JE

        Clinton is definitely the keymaster…always looking for the gatekeeper.
        Perhaps Obama is staypuft. He seems so harmless yet here he comes to destroy the world (and the people unwittingly have chosen the form that the destroyer will take).

    • Gary Russell

      The perfect “StayPuft Marshmallow Man”?

      Barney Frank.

  • JE

    The problem with the comparison is that Gozer asks ‘are you a god?’ to which akroyd says no and he is reminded by his partner that if someone asks if you are a god you say yes. Obama would not make that mistake because his omnipotent teleprompter would tell him to say yes. I am the One we have been waiting for. Perhaps he is the 12th Imam for which ahmadenijad is waiting. (and if you don’t know that reference, google it and understand that is what the leader of iran believes…that if the world gets bad enough (you know, like if he nukes israel, etc) the messiah will come. Then tell me how you negotiate with that).

  • German Observer

    First, are you aware, that Obama is not the only person, who uses teleprompters? Its very common to use them. Its not crucial whether or not you use a teleprompter, but what you put into it.

    Secondly, who said, that all problems of the world are solved, just because Obama gave a new years adress to the Iranian people? Nobody so far, except for you.

    Thirdly, what is your alternative to a hands reach to the countries, which you have conflicts to?

  • Gil Rice

    And I believe Iran’s Supreme Leader has rebuked these statements , because he has seen no change in attitude since the elections.
    I’m not sure we have either!!