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ACORN is nuts

Posted on October 14th, 2008 at 11:06 am by East of Eden

We’ve been hearing a lot lately about ACORN and voter fraud in the news lately. If the fact that ACORN workers had one teenager register to vote more than 70 times does not make you sick, I don’t know what will. The boy in question, Freddie Johnson, stated that ACORN workers begged him to sign cards so that they could fill their quota and keep their jobs.

Clearly that’s a conflict of interest. Why are people being paid to register others to vote? Why is voter registration not being handled through offices of the Secretaries of State? Why are untrained and unmonitored people, who are being paid by the registration card being allowed to register people to vote?

What is more troubling to me however, that this young man lacked the integrity or moral fortitude to say NO to these community organizers in the first place, or to even turn them in. Voting is the most important thing we do as Americans. Cheating the system makes that system fail for everyone. I have a feeling, however that this is not the last we will hear of ACORN’s “efforts” to get out the vote, and that ACORN officials and those connected with ACORN will continue to brush these misdeeds and shenanigans under the rug. I also have a feeling that because of groups like ACORN this election cycle will go down as one of the nastiest in US History.

22 Comments

  1. Troy La Mana on 14.10.2008 at 11:42 (Reply)

    None of this would be an issue if you were required to show ID before voting.

  2. dw on 14.10.2008 at 11:52 (Reply)

    Eden, have you not learned the lesson? Obama wants everything to be fair. Bush stole the election for the GOP. Thus, Obaman has to cheat to win the election for the DEMs. All’s fair in love, war and politics… :-(

  3. east-of=eden on 14.10.2008 at 12:23 (Reply)

    Yes, Bush stole the election…oh wait, he didn’t and it doesn’t matter anyway because that was then and this is now, and the Dems need to GET OVER IT! Seriously, again life is not fair. Can we get over it already?

    And Troy, I totally agree with you on showing an ID to vote or register to vote. I have always thought it funny you have to show more ID to rent a movie than to vote…..and you will also be happy to note, Troy, that Bob Barr is on the New Mexico State ballot. I didn’t think he’d make it here, but he did!

    1. Gary Russell on 14.10.2008 at 13:00 (Reply)

      Bob who?

      1. Shawn Naegle on 14.10.2008 at 13:49 (Reply)

        Don’t make me come over there Gary…!

  4. Alaina on 14.10.2008 at 13:19 (Reply)

    I’m so sick of these people. I’ve seen several of their inverviews over the last couple of days and it makes me want to throw something at the TV!

    Yeah, yeah, you registered 1.7M people to vote. Guess what! It doesn’t count when they’re fraudulent! Mickey Mouse is a cartoon character. He’s not real. He cannot vote. I know Tony Romo is in Vegas a lot, but he does not a reside in Nevada and cannot vote in that state. As for the rest of the Cowboys, Dallas is in Texas, not Nevada. Do you need a map?

    Oh, and, according to them, the screening of their registrations cards is very thorough. Oh really? Is that why Freddy Johnson was registered 73 times? And again, Mickey Mouse?

    But wait, voter registration fraud is not the same as voter fraud. Symantics. Is that why someone was caught in Ohio today trying to vote using one of your fraudulent registrations?

  5. Red State Eddio on 14.10.2008 at 13:38 (Reply)

    Reality says that the US is more conservative than the ultra-libs want, and they’ll never get elected to anything if they’re upfront and clear about it. So this is their way to get the win without the majority of the people.

  6. J on 14.10.2008 at 17:54 (Reply)

    Obama already has the best voter registration and turnout. His volunteer organization is arguable one of the most successful political organizations in recent times. Obama does not want, nor needs any of ACORN’s help. ACORN is not advising the campaign in any way, shape or form. There is a great response to this on the POLITICO, in which he explains how registration drives work, and that “we make sure everybody is voting, everybody’s registered. Let’s make sure that everybody’s doing it in a lawful way.”
    These peripheral connections people are trying to stick to Barack are not working, as voters are seeing through them with simple logic.

    1. Brian West on 14.10.2008 at 19:24 (Reply)

      The Obamessiah has nothing to do with ACORN just like he has never renounced Jeremiah Wright. The man is a smooth-talking liar whose strongest associations are with terrorists, racists, and convicted felon Tony Rezko. He talks like he is bipartisan or postpartisan yet has the most liberal voting record in the Senate. If you are taking HIS word about ACORN, maybe I can interest you in some swamp land or a bridge to purchase….

      1. J on 14.10.2008 at 22:52 (Reply)

        See my below post. All this stuff you mention is old news. Did you watch the Democratic Primary? He separated himself from Wright and the Church, repudiated his comments, and gave a speech on race relations. He has repudiated Bill Ayers actions of the past, when he was eight, and worked with Ayers along with Democrats and Republicans, such as former ambassador to Reagan, Walter Annenberg. And Tony Rezko, he had no connection with his Rezko’s criminal charges. Do I need to mention the Keating Five? I guess so.

        1. kristen on 15.10.2008 at 08:55 (Reply)

          He repudiated them only because it became politically expedient.

          Ayers happened to be just one of the recipients of the Annenburg Foundation, which gave away billions to enhance education. How were they to know Ayers and Obama (who collaborated closely) would use it for their own radical agenda?

        2. Alaina on 15.10.2008 at 09:35 (Reply)

          Go ahead, mention the Keating Five. McCain was cleared of all improprieties.

          It may be old news because it is completely relevant. With the exception of possibly his wife, Wright has had the most influence over Obama’s adult life. He said in Wright’s church for 20 YEARS and listened to that nonsense. First Obama said he had never heard Wright say some of the things he said. Then he said he may have heard it once or twice. Then he said he heard it on several occasions. He didn’t disassociate with Wright until 6 weeks into a media firestorm and Wright made some comment that hurt his feelings.

          He didn’t repudiate the action of Ayers when he was 8. He was 8 when Ayers bombed the Capitol. He worked closely with Ayers for years. It’s documented fact. Obama first said that Ayers was just a guy in the neighborhood. Then he said he didn’t know about Ayers’ past. Now he’s saying that he thought Ayers regretted his actions.

          No, Obama wasn’t the reason Rezko went to jail and wasn’t associated with that particular time, but he certainly had shady dealings with him.

          For the life of me, I cannot understand how people can defend him, especially on the Reverend Wright issue.

    2. Alaina on 14.10.2008 at 20:01 (Reply)

      Obama has no association with them at all. He only funneled money to them through Ayers, trained their leaders and served a their lawyer for voter fraud cases.

      Come on J, open your eyes and quit making excuses for this guy.

      1. J on 14.10.2008 at 22:45 (Reply)

        ACORN the organization is not directly responsible. The organization itself is not accused. Individual members are being accused for their actions. What ACORN does it hires workers to register, who get paid based on the amount of registered voters they get. So rather than doing it honestly, they just right down as many names as they can. Some as you can tell, are even done very jokingly.
        ACORN has not advised his campaign, and play no role in Obama’s own registration programs. I don’t see why Obama would use ACORN, as he gets some many newly registered voters by his own campaign. He represented ACORN as a lawyer along with the US Justice Department over thirteen years ago to implement the motor voter law. McCain, however, went to an ACORN rally in 2006, speaking positively on behalf of ACORN.

        1. Alaina Segovia on 14.10.2008 at 23:19 (Reply)

          How can you say ACORN is not directly responsible? Are they not responsible for the people they hire, like felons (some of which were convicted of idenity theft)? Are they not responsible for the policies and standards they set for their employees?

          You hold Wall Street CEOs directly responsible for what happens inside their companies (which you should), some of which have hundreds of thousands of employees, but you don’t hold ACORN responsible for anything their people do?

  7. Lea White on 14.10.2008 at 19:23 (Reply)

    Once again, personal responsibility is taking a back seat to big brother ‘community organization’ with dire results…registering to vote is not rocket science. Of COURSE the libs are chomping at the bit to ‘register’ as many as they can, if a state requires no ID in order to vote then there is no way to prevent fraud. Stacks of unused voter registrations are music to cheating ears at the end of election night, I am sure. How many ACORN employees (!) are manning polling locations? How are volunteers vetted, or are they? Where does this all stop? Individuals should have nothing AT ALL to do with the process of registering voters- do these groups also sign up radical terrorists for drivers licenses…or maybe passports?! Does Mickey have clearance to NORCOM?

  8. Red State Eddio on 15.10.2008 at 07:59 (Reply)

    I am envisioning a movie of a man clearly overwhelmed with the responsibilities of the WH office, guided by a cabal of henchmen bent on domination to their partisan policies, unable to guide a nation through a tumultuous time, living off of pithy soundbytes that lack any cogent or coherent substance, saddling the government with waste, bureaucracy, and needless legislation, and seeing America appear weak and listless to the world, not as a leader, but as a puppet or naive kid.

    The move will be called “O”.

    Due out fall 2012. Or 2016, depending on how many ACORN registrations successfuly go through.

    (That “O” ain’t for Oprah, either, by the way.)

  9. Joe Citizen on 15.10.2008 at 09:31 (Reply)

    I want to see some INDICTMENTS and CONVICTIONS for this ILLEGAL voter fraud. These ACORN folks, just like Joe Biden, get by with completely ridiculous actions and incompetence because they are ‘fighting the good fight’ and the news is on their side. Thats a fact.

    1. Alaina on 15.10.2008 at 09:38 (Reply)

      Oh no, you can’t indict any of them. If you do, then you are a racist and trying to suppress the rights of minorities and the poor, no matter how illegal their actions are.

      ***Please note the sarcasm.

    2. east-of=eden on 15.10.2008 at 10:24 (Reply)

      Joe, I totally agree with you. In the case of the Ohio teenager, he was told if he wanted to vote (because he’s guilty of fraud too) he’d have to use a provisional ballot. But the ACORN people are seemingly in the clear. Here in New Mexico, the FBI is involved with the investigation, and I am very interested to see how things turn out.

      I get the feeling that because groups like this feel that the GOP and W “stole” the election in 2000 and 2004, it’s ok for them to try and steal this one. Of course, they don’t look at it as stealing, but rather giving the “voiceless a voice”. I’m fine with voter registration drives, I think the more people voting the better. I just think these drives should only be done by state/county or verified local election officals….or here’s an idea, just go to the county clerk’s office and register. And as for ACORN people running polls, that’s bad too.

      But like Alaina said you’d be a racsist for even suggesting any of this or for even wanting a shread of transparancey.

  10. Chris on 15.10.2008 at 10:56 (Reply)

    I find it funny the Democrats make such an effort to register people to vote; people who would otherwise not be inclined to vote, in my opinion, should not be convinced to do so. They went through high school and were advised of their civic duty countless times. If a person is too stupid, apathetic, or uninformed to vote, I would rather them sit it out.

    The best part is that liberals love to think of themselves as being so intelligent and advanced, and yet their entire movement hinges every election cycle on “getting out the dope” voter drives.

  11. Troy La Mana on 15.10.2008 at 18:11 (Reply)

    Here is a list of states that has had issues with ACORN:

    Connecticut

    * ACORN submits false registration forms in Bridgeport, attempts
    to register 7-year-old girl
    * More on that 7-year-old

    Florida

    * 30,000 felons who should have been stripped of their right to
    vote still registered.
    * Duplicate and irregular registrations in Hillsborough County.
    * Two-thirds of voter registration applications delivered by ACORN
    are “of people who were already registered”

    Indiana

    * First 2,100 of 5,000 voter registration forms turned in by ACORN
    found to be fraudulent
    * Massive fraud in Lake County
    * More people registered to vote than eligible in Marion County
    (Indianapolis)

    Missouri

    * Hundreds of Bogus Registrations in Kansas City.
    * More on ACORN’s duplicate registration forms in the BBQ Capital
    of the World

    Nevada

    * ACORN offices raided in Clark County

    New Mexico

    * FBI Investigates Suspect Registrations

    Ohio

    * Democratic Secretary of State enables fraud.
    * She fuels suspicion about Ohio elections
    * Multiple registrations in Cuyahoga County
    * 37,000 registered Columbua voters list vacant lots as home
    * More registered voters in Franklin County (Columbua) than
    eligible people

    Pennsylvania

    * ACORN employee arrested, charged with submitting more than 100
    bogus registrations
    * Vote Fraud Probed in Allegheny County (yup, ACORN is involved)

    Texas

    * Dead People Registered to Vote

    Wisconsin

    * Felon accused of illegally registering himself and others

    Remove Connecticut and Texas and the list above reads like a list of
    the swing states in this election. Will the media notice how
    widespread is this fraud?

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