Comments on: John McCain and the Raiders of the Lost Economy http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/ Latest PD Composite: Barack Obama 45.6% - Mitt Romney 45.8% Tue, 24 Apr 2012 18:09:39 -0400 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: joe gores http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-129959 joe gores Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:55:35 +0000 http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/#comment-129959 McCain is done and so is this country. Obama is a big time lair and spender and we're all going to suffer. the only other candidate that might have had a better chance was Rudy, but he blew it too by blowing off Iowa & NH. Hillary is finished as a Presidential candidate, so in 2012 the Republicans need someone with a good business bckground to save us from the mess we'll be in. I'll probably be wrong but I believe that this country will never see another Republican President in the next 30 years!!! McCain is done and so is this country. Obama is a big time lair and spender and we’re all going to suffer. the only other candidate that might have had a better chance was Rudy, but he blew it too by blowing off Iowa & NH.

Hillary is finished as a Presidential candidate, so in 2012 the Republicans need someone with a good business bckground to save us from the mess we’ll be in.

I’ll probably be wrong but I believe that this country will never see another Republican President in the next 30 years!!!

]]> By: Patrick Keegan http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-129935 Patrick Keegan Wed, 08 Oct 2008 12:20:04 +0000 http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/#comment-129935 I agree the both parties are to blame for this mess, but you missed the point of the piece. I am laying out a case that McCain's recent woes are due to the fact he's not run a good campaign, and the financial crisis has exposed that fact. I would say both sides made mistakes here, the difference is that Obama's plans, words and actions have shown he has an even keel. He is cutting taxes on everyone who makes under $250,000 a year, he wants to help small and start-up businesses by cutting the capital gains taxes they pay, and he wants to create new jobs by investing in renewable, American energy forms. Alaina, even you have to admit that McCain has run a questionable campaign up until now. He's made several gambles, some have paid, some have not, and this one on the economy has not worked out for him. I'm not defending the Democratic party, nor am I attacking the Republican party here, both know their roles in this mess. I just feel that McCain has performed poorly as a candidate in the last few weeks of this mess, and Obama has been better, not great mind you, but better. I agree the both parties are to blame for this mess, but you missed the point of the piece.

I am laying out a case that McCain’s recent woes are due to the fact he’s not run a good campaign, and the financial crisis has exposed that fact.

I would say both sides made mistakes here, the difference is that Obama’s plans, words and actions have shown he has an even keel. He is cutting taxes on everyone who makes under $250,000 a year, he wants to help small and start-up businesses by cutting the capital gains taxes they pay, and he wants to create new jobs by investing in renewable, American energy forms.

Alaina, even you have to admit that McCain has run a questionable campaign up until now. He’s made several gambles, some have paid, some have not, and this one on the economy has not worked out for him.

I’m not defending the Democratic party, nor am I attacking the Republican party here, both know their roles in this mess.

I just feel that McCain has performed poorly as a candidate in the last few weeks of this mess, and Obama has been better, not great mind you, but better.

]]> By: Alaina Segovia http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-129867 Alaina Segovia Wed, 08 Oct 2008 03:36:03 +0000 http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/#comment-129867 I agree with the statements above, you can't pin it on one person or one party. As I've said a million times, every person who has been in Washington during the Clinton era until now, Wall Street, banks, and millions of individual consumers are all at fault. Patrick, if you think it's so one-sided, defend your party on this one. I'm going to steal your own words from you... quite being so negative about the party you oppose and tell us why you think the Dems have handled this crisis well and/or did everything they could to prevent it. I agree with the statements above, you can’t pin it on one person or one party. As I’ve said a million times, every person who has been in Washington during the Clinton era until now, Wall Street, banks, and millions of individual consumers are all at fault.

Patrick, if you think it’s so one-sided, defend your party on this one. I’m going to steal your own words from you… quite being so negative about the party you oppose and tell us why you think the Dems have handled this crisis well and/or did everything they could to prevent it.

]]> By: JE http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-129849 JE Wed, 08 Oct 2008 01:08:07 +0000 http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/#comment-129849 To clarify, i agree with the premise that this is obama'a race. (The presidential, not the black thing he obsesses about). As far as all this being republicans fault...anyone who thinks one party is clean and the other deserves all the blame on anything is delusional. To clarify, i agree with the premise that this is obama’a race. (The presidential, not the black thing he obsesses about). As far as all this being republicans fault…anyone who thinks one party is clean and the other deserves all the blame on anything is delusional.

]]> By: Joe Citizen http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-129828 Joe Citizen Tue, 07 Oct 2008 21:17:55 +0000 http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/#comment-129828 I agree completely about the partisans. Keegan, please spare me the survey references. Those economists who say Obama is better prepared for the crisis? Many of them probably agree with McCain that the government backing companies who purchase sub-prime loan packages that were sold to unqualified minorities are a disaster for the economy. If you encourage lenders to make fast money giving big loans to little people and back them up with government money (Fannie and Freddie again!), what do you expect them to do? This was a part of Obama's organizing in Chicago however, and another part of the rise of "fairness" as Biden puts it. (Through Obama/Biden tax proposal, fair is giving a check to people who don't pay taxes funded by increasing taxes on those who pay astronomically more.) Obama might have a 'better grasp' but he will continue this kind of community organizing and attempted government regulation of the 'opressed' that steers the markets in dangerous directions. His values and policies encourage feelings of entitlement and reliance on government assistance rather than the hard work and responsibility that will really get us out of this mess. If you really think that only Republicans and big bad Bush are responsible for this crisis your commitment to party warfare is a bit over the edge. I agree completely about the partisans.

Keegan, please spare me the survey references. Those economists who say Obama is better prepared for the crisis? Many of them probably agree with McCain that the government backing companies who purchase sub-prime loan packages that were sold to unqualified minorities are a disaster for the economy. If you encourage lenders to make fast money giving big loans to little people and back them up with government money (Fannie and Freddie again!), what do you expect them to do? This was a part of Obama’s organizing in Chicago however, and another part of the rise of “fairness” as Biden puts it. (Through Obama/Biden tax proposal, fair is giving a check to people who don’t pay taxes funded by increasing taxes on those who pay astronomically more.)

Obama might have a ‘better grasp’ but he will continue this kind of community organizing and attempted government regulation of the ‘opressed’ that steers the markets in dangerous directions. His values and policies encourage feelings of entitlement and reliance on government assistance rather than the hard work and responsibility that will really get us out of this mess.

If you really think that only Republicans and big bad Bush are responsible for this crisis your commitment to party warfare is a bit over the edge.

]]> By: Shawn Naegle http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-129826 Shawn Naegle Tue, 07 Oct 2008 20:56:01 +0000 http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/#comment-129826 Those 150,000 people you lament about lost their jobs because of a Democratic controlled congress letting the Wall Street and the mortgage industry to run wild for the last 6 years. You can't blame it all on McCain or the Republicans when it has been your party in control of the Legislative branch prior to and during the meltdown. It is clear that the Democrats blocked the Repulicans on changes that they wanted to make to Freddie and Fannie. However, despite the obstruction of the Democrats, one must wonder why the Republicans did NOTHING while they were in power for TWELVE YEARS. Don't be so blind to your side's hand in the meltdown. Both parties are corrupt. Both parties took money from Freddie and Fannie. This is not just a McCain problem, it is a Washington problem. Obama is no more equiped to handle the economy than McCain. No matter who we elect, we're in for a rough ride. When will you partisan people wake up and say enough? It's time to unite and throw them all out. Those 150,000 people you lament about lost their jobs because of a Democratic controlled congress letting the Wall Street and the mortgage industry to run wild for the last 6 years. You can’t blame it all on McCain or the Republicans when it has been your party in control of the Legislative branch prior to and during the meltdown. It is clear that the Democrats blocked the Repulicans on changes that they wanted to make to Freddie and Fannie. However, despite the obstruction of the Democrats, one must wonder why the Republicans did NOTHING while they were in power for TWELVE YEARS.

Don’t be so blind to your side’s hand in the meltdown. Both parties are corrupt. Both parties took money from Freddie and Fannie. This is not just a McCain problem, it is a Washington problem. Obama is no more equiped to handle the economy than McCain. No matter who we elect, we’re in for a rough ride.

When will you partisan people wake up and say enough?

It’s time to unite and throw them all out.

]]> By: JE http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/comment-page-1/#comment-129813 JE Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:00:00 +0000 http://politicalderby.com/2008/10/07/john-mccain-and-the-raiders-of-the-lost-economy/#comment-129813 From the other side of the political spectrum i completely agree with your post. I was against McCain in the primary but one of the main ones was the potential for economics to be a problem. If the republicans would have nominated Romney he would make Obama look like...well kind of what Obama makes McCain look like now. The repubs can start making their plans for 2012 and hopefully that includes changing their nomination system from 'gee, he deserves it' to 'who is the best candidate to run the country' (and not just the military). From the other side of the political spectrum i completely agree with your post. I was against McCain in the primary but one of the main ones was the potential for economics to be a problem. If the republicans would have nominated Romney he would make Obama look like…well kind of what Obama makes McCain look like now. The repubs can start making their plans for 2012 and hopefully that includes changing their nomination system from ‘gee, he deserves it’ to ‘who is the best candidate to run the country’ (and not just the military).

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