Say it ain’t so Joe
Posted on October 2nd, 2008 at 11:11 pm by Stephen Fountain, EditorSarah Palin met Joe Biden on stage in St. Louis for the 2008 Vice-Presidential Debate. Both candidates performed well, but the advantage must be given to Palin for showing up and exceeding expectations. The standard set by the media was that Sarah didn’t know anything and couldn’t answer hard questions.
One of the more favorite moments in the debate can be seen below. It occurs at about 50 seconds into the clip. Relive the moment here.
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Palin did exceed expectations, but she did seem like she was dodging questions she could not answer. She also went back to seemingly rehearsed talking points when she did not know the answer.
Biden gave substantive policy positions while Palin was very vague in those same policies. Biden for the most part answered every question with knowledge and a clear understanding. The same cannot be said about Palin.
Most importantly, Palin mada a very critical error. History matters. If you do not learn from the mistakes of the past, you are doomed to repeat them. If you do not have a change from the Bush’s disastrous policies, then you are not any of the real change this country needs. This administration is not even over, and is currently making decisions that will affect the next one.
To quote Falkner: “History isn’t dead; it’s not even past.”
It’s easy to sound like you know what you’re talking about when you make it up as you go.
That’s what Palin does.
Once again I’m just stopping by…I thought it was a pretty much a tie; but I would give Palin a slight edge (though I only saw the last 30 min. of the debate).
See you after the next debate…
McCain camp has to make a message shakeup and quick. I know they’re waiting till later in the game, but they need to start now or the narrative won’t stick. Expect a 1-3 point bounce in the polls for McCain after this debate. If you haven’t seen the polls…that’s not enough. I like the reformer, leader, maverick vs. not ready to lead narrative; but you need more substance and action (not just talk). Send Sarah Palin out to events targeting women and social cons (let those be her two main blocks). McCain should show his leadership in some way (I really liked the suspended campaign thing). More country first, more real leadership, let Obama give speeches. Immigration, energy, and social issues need hitting hard (issues McCain can have a net plus with). IDK what else to say, they need to do something quick…the election is next month.
I remember when Bush 1 was way behind in the polls against Clinton in 92. It was as if they were in denial as to the lead and the reality of losing. At some point less than a month away, they threw the campaign into high gear, and it finally started gaining traction. In fact, conventional wisdom was that if the campaign had continued for 2 more weeks, GB 1 would have caught up to Clinton and beaten him. He just read the tea leaves too little, too late.
I wonder if camp Mac is making the same mistake. We’re at 31 days and dropping. It’s time for the full court press and the week of all-nighters to get things going.
I agree with you about unleashing Palin to the social cons and base. If it wasn’t for her, the Mac campaign would be DOA already. They need to unleash her and let her whip up the base and fast. Time is running out.
Sarah! Less Barracuda than girl next door. For 5 1/2 weeks into the game, I think she scored well.
I will be interested today to see some fact-checking of the points. Last night, Karl Rove noted several errors in Biden’s points, so I would like to see those detailed. Of course, Biden gets a pass from the MSM for whatever.
Must admit that Gwen Eiffel did better than I expected. I still won’t buy her Obama praisin’ stinkin’ book… I just have a rule about buying books from liberal women.
Whodat
A tie, they both came out the way they needed, but no one more than Palin, Those interviews are behind her. Joe did good, and he really did well infront of the american people when he mentioned his wife and daughter dying in a car accident.
Both head out winners, Slight gain for Mccain, but Obama by 10 points on monday.
I agree with J, but I also thought that Biden seemed to be helping out Palin at times, like when he explained why McCain did not vote for the surge- because of the timeline. This could have been a point to be covered by Palin. Biden could have simply said McCain didn’t vote for the surge and left it at that.
Not even close, she mopped the floor with Joe. Grand Slam.
She exceeded my expectations. And although I have yet to actually watch it (body language says a lot), it sounded great on the radio. She sounded like she was comfortable and having a good time…..which is probably hard to do when you’re sharing a stage with grandpa Joe. She hit a few nice balls out of the park.
And it did seem like Biden was pulling ‘facts’ and figures out of nowhere. I question the accuracy (which is obviously being looked into as we speak….).