Veepstakes
Posted on May 15th, 2008 at 8:23 am by CordeiroBefore I begin this rant, I should probably state clearly that my personal preference during the Republican primary race was former Bay State Governor Mitt Romney. I thought – and still think – he was and is the best qualified person to sit in the Big Chair. Having said that, in every race there are victors and vanquished and in the end Mitt didn’t make the cut. For better, and quite possibly worse, the Republican party has chosen and is now stuck with John McCain.
The only drama left on the Republican side is who will fill the VP slot on the McCain ticket. Sorry all you Ronulans out there. Drop me a line if you ever get internet service at that colony of yours.
In his seemingly endless quest to remain in the limelight, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee keeps the rumor mill going about his quest for the #2 spot on the ticket. According to USA News’ James Pethokoukis, Huck is the odds on favored to get the nod.
Sigh.
Where he gets the idea that Huck brings anything to a McCain ticket is beyond me. Huck’s idea of economic stimulation is widening I-95 from Bangor, Maine to Miami, Florida. His tax plan revolves around the idea of closing down the IRS – like that will ever pass any Congress. As for foreign policy, Huck doesn’t differ much from Obama.
The issue of religion is never far from Huck – and this is where my main problem with him lies. Huck made a point of declaring himself to be the “Christian” leader – thereby calling into question the religiosity of every other candidate. I understand the bulk of his non-political life was spent behind the pulpit, but there is a limit to how much I religion I can handle on the political stage.
It was a not-so-subtle reference by Huck to Mitt Romney’s religion – one which I share with him – which sealed my negative opinion about the former Arkansas governor. In a December interview with the New York Times Magazine, Huck made a reference to Mormonism – asking the reporter
“Don’t Mormons,” he asked in an innocent voice, ‘‘believe that Jesus and the devil are brothers?”
Now, dear reader, this little tidbit isn’t something that comes easily to someone who claims to know little about Mormon theology. Mike Huckabee spent far too many years at the pulpit not to have known exactly what he was doing. He knew the furor that question would cause, and he knew the reporter would print it. Huck purposely injected religion into what should have been a secular campaign. So, on top of everything else I hold against Huck, you can now add a lack of class.
The political world is one of give and take back scratching. McCain owes the fact he has had a clear running field to Mitt Romney’s graceful exit at CPAC. Mitt could have pulled a Hillary and fought McCain tooth and nail all the way to St. Paul. He didn’t and the Republican Party is in much better shape because of it.
Huck, on the other hand, stayed in the race far past his Sell-By Date. He never had a realistic chance of winning the nomination which kind of makes one wonder why he stayed in so long. His electoral base is broad, but not deep enough to put any state in play which McCain wouldn’t carry anyway.
McCain knows that because of his age, his VP choice will be critical. He also knows that most conservatives are already having trouble holding their collective noses to vote for him in November. Personally, I will most likely pull the lever – or touch the screen – for McCain. Should he be foolish enough to put Huck on his ticket, he’ll lose my vote altogether.
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Well, this oughta garner quite a few comments.
Far out VP predictions from your far out poster…
First of all, I think Veep selection is overblown;
Favorite fodder for some, but the Pres wins on his own.
So, be Veep far right or middle or whatever, to me,
Matters less than FROM where comes he (and not she).
Thus, I place my largest bet on Lieberman, Joe;
Mac’s buddy, a proven independent, and Jewish, you know.
A Jewish Veep brings New York into play, with Barak
And rumored anti-semetic friends, then there’s Iraq…
Big Mac and Lieberman agree on Iraq and much more
Plus, Lieberman will carry Connecticut - done it before!
And, Florida’s East Coast has many former NYC Jews,
Full of lots more former Democrat votes Big Mac could use.
Finally, Big Mac is a maverick who cares little for who
Might tell him the “smart politics” of what to do.
He is both “in your face” and “who will guard my flank?”
Lieberman fits both best, and in every way, a Yank!
For my 2nd choice, Lindsay Graham, S. Carolina Sen.
Young, long LOYAL to Big Mac - who needs the South to win.
Whodat has placed his bets based on friedship, loyalty and geography because labels don’t mean much to he…
P.S. to Cordeiro
Being “Morman” was not Romney’s problem or demise -
So stop sulking. He was a phoney-baloney from Massachusetts, an in-fact liberal, A pretty-boy with lots of loot, a pretty face in an empty suit.
Conservatives, having been burned by the current
“conservative” in the White House (who would not make a pimple on a real conservative’s posterior) would not be fooled again!
And Huckster? What a hack! What a Bible-thumpin’ joke.
His record was not “Mr. Conservative” either. Outside of Arkansas, he could not organize a trailer park.
Whodat got no patience wif psuedo-conservatives!
Whodat has respect for Big Mac who is, at least, honest about who and what he is. I relate to honesty.
Romney was my first choice as well, and I was perturbed by the animosity spewed toward him (esp about his religion, which I too share). Sorry whodat, but his religious affiliation played a large part in people’s prejudice. And he was the most conservative of the bunch.
Huckabee bugs, and you summed him up well: No class. He showed his arrogance, conceit, and ignorance by
lashing out at Mormons and using the ‘they’re not Christian’ routine (um, yes we are). Talk about an empty suit.
I don’t think I can get myself to vote for J-Mac. I’m thinking I’ll write in a name come November…..
I’ve done that protest. It felt good to turn my back on Bush #1 because he violated his “read my lips - no new taxes” promise.
Yep, we taught him a lesson. But, then we realized we had just elected Slick Willie.
I don’t protest vote anymore…
Whodat learned some hang-overs last 8 years
Condi Rice would be the best choice.
I too, am a Romney fan, and dislike Huckabee, but will you seriously NOT vote for McCain and let Obama or Hillary take over the White House? I think it’s an empty threat when given the alternative.
1st- I agree with Whodat that Romney was NOT a conservative. Romney wanted to expand the departments of energy and education and increase spending by over 19 billion dollars (according the a National Taxpayers Union study). Since when do conservatives stand for more government?
2nd- Condi Rice would be not be a good choice. With Condi on the ticket it will be easy for people to think of McCain as third term of the current administration. That is a sure way to lose votes.
3rd- There has to come a time when we stop voting AGAINST candidates and start voting with our convictions. Until then, America is going to have poor leaders.
In 2012 (assuming McCain is president), most Americans aren’t going to realize that our country is in such a poor state of affairs because of a big government Republican. All they will know is that a Republican is president, and will vote for what they think is the most viable alternative- a democrat. But, of course, it will be a big government democrat far worse then McCain.
So, the way I see it, we either get four years of hell now, or four years of hell later.
I’d rather go to hell with my convictions than with blind party loyalty.
I’m tired of all the Mitt suckers crying foul about Mitt’s religion. HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON! HE DID NOT LOSE BECAUSE HE WAS MORMON!
Secondly, I’m tired of them claiming that Huck was somehow trying to use Romney’s religion against him, and that he in all reality knew all about Mormonism.
Since when does Baptist seminary training teach you about Mormonism? That’s utter nonsense. The Protestant Bible has about 56 books in it, don’t you think they’d be a little busy learning about those. Not to mention learning about the daily tasks required of Pastors and practicing giving sermons and stuff. Do you really think they’d have time to read 15 extra books that don’t have anything to do with Baptist Theology?
The guy from the ‘Times was trying to bait Huck into talking bad about Mormonism, and time and time again he turned them down. Then when asked if he had any questions about Mormonism, he asked the infamous question. Was it a VERY STUPID mistake? Yes. Was it some intentional ploy to hurt Mitt, NO WAY. That goes against everything that Huckabee stands for.
As far as the actual question goes, the official Mormon website has this to say:
“1. In the premortal life we were spirit children and lived with our heavenly parents …
2. Jesus was the firstborn spirit child of Heavenly Father and is the older brother of our spirits …
3. Lucifer, who became Satan, was also a spirit child of the Heavenly Father …”
If in fact this is true, I’m not sure I understand what the outrage is about?
great, everyone’s favorite anti-mormon is back. look through anddru’s comments and you’ll find tons of this mormon bashing stuff, so much so that i think he got chased off for a while, makes you wonder why he’s obsessed
Absolutely not, I have nothing against Mormans, most of you who support Romney on here aren’t Mormans, you’re Economic conservatives. You just use Romney’s religion as a stick to beat back me and other Huckabee supporters. Why not debate my post on it’s merits instead of calling names.
Also, I never got “chased off”, lol. As far as I know I’m in good standing with Jason, Barry, Kaiser, WhoDat, NY Con, Troy, and others.
The only person who I know doesn’t like me is BJD aka Lazlo and that has more to do with the fact that I’m a Christian who loves Jews (which in his world is two strikes against me) than it does with anyone else’s religion.
Look through my comments and you’ll see plenty of Romney bashing stuff, but that has nothing to do with his Mormonism. It has everything to do with the fact that he isn’t a conservative, looks down on middle class America, and flip-flops like Mr. Heinz-Kerry himself.