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The best way to stop our enemies is with a strong national defense, not through aggressive wars. Ron Paul is not anti-defense, but he IS against aggressive wars.

Other than his social libertarianism, Rudy is in no way similar to a libertarian. You might as well vote for a democrat. At least they appreciate civil liberties.

So not only are you a one-issue voter…you choose this to be your one issue. The war in Iraq (despite what the media says) was a success.

“We have to institute a stable government there before we leave or we’re REALLY gonna be in for trouble. They’re not gonna “follow us over” or some crap like that, but al-Qaeda WILL have an even more friendly government than Saddam Hussein was to them.”

So says the same people who told us ‘they hate us for our freedom’ and ‘they have weapons of mass destruction’. You are listening to the same people who were wrong/lied in the first place.

You do know this isn’t a liberation, it’s a conquest…it’s to establish another base (besides Israel) in the middle east.

There really is two sets of discussions going on:

1. The mainstream discussion.

2. The Ron Paul discussion.

BTW: I’m from the South…trust me, Reconstruction equates to destruction of economy, culture, and pits groups of people against one another. Installing a puppet regime in Iraq will backfire like the Shah of Iran and the president of Haiti.

Not Ron Paul. His supporters. If you’d read what I wrote about how I feel bad for him because his supporters are a bunch of fools. There was someone on this board that called Rudy “Rude E Jew liani” …What!?

Do you really trust the GOP to seal the border?

Do you really believe the income tax is necessary? or in agreeance with the intent of this country?

Do you really agree with overtaxing and overspending? Do you think any candidate beside Ron Paul would try to stop it?

Would you personally attack Iran…do you really trust the government/media THAT much? Can you admit that they have lied/misinformed you about Iraq and Iran?

What is the purpose of the federal government?

Why should we further leave the original intent of this country? Why should we leave freedom? ”

I LIKE RON PAUL. I would vote for him if he supported the war! I am pro-voluntary taxation, do not trust the GOP to seal the border, and am for following the Constitution to a T. I’m against the Military Commissions Act.

I’m also against losing wars! In hindsight, we shouldn’t have gone in, but we don’t get to make decisions in hindsight. Ron Paul wants to pretend like we never went in and that Iraq will be just the way we found it. IT WON’T BE. We have to institute a stable government there before we leave or we’re REALLY gonna be in for trouble. They’re not gonna “follow us over” or some crap like that, but al-Qaeda WILL have an even more friendly government than Saddam Hussein was to them.

I just found out that this straw poll was sponsored by PoliticalDerby.com and 411Communications. It was executed onsite by Jason Wright and Stephen Fountain of PoliticalDerby.com in Reno, Nevada.

http://www.usastrawpolls.com doesn’t have it posted yet; HOWEVER, the site posted a summary of the post-debate polls (cell phone and online polls). Ron Paul clearly won most of those by landslides.

And you call Ron Paul folk conspiracy theorists.

Try discussing the issues.

Do you really trust the GOP to seal the border?

Do you really believe the income tax is necessary? or in agreeance with the intent of this country?

Do you really agree with overtaxing and overspending? Do you think any candidate beside Ron Paul would try to stop it?

Would you personally attack Iran…do you really trust the government/media THAT much? Can you admit that they have lied/misinformed you about Iraq and Iran?

What is the purpose of the federal government?

Why should we further leave the original intent of this country? Why should we leave freedom?

And as far as Paul and anti-semitism…that weak-@ss piece of mudslinging has been debunked:

Sarcastic view of the anti-semite myth (this also points out Ron Paul’s VAST economic knowledge):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lup9DgYNRk4

Jews for Ron Paul:
http://www.jews4ronpaul.org

Ron Paul meetup group in Israel
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=50077

Orthodox Jews and Muslims together protesting zionism/AIPAC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuSlsiW9hT8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nClbNB-qNRA

US and Israel people (not our/their leaders) know this is NOT the way to go about building Israel…heck, most of the damn world knows it…and Ron Paul and his supporters know it too. This effort in the middle east is not fundamentally American, nor fundamentally Jewish. It is just the next conquest in a long line of imperialistic conquests.

Anarchy is a very poor platform to run on, folks, and just because you all are great online, doesn’t mean it shows up much in national polling, or on election day.

Mad How Dean was also riding high online in 2004, but he lost big time because people saw he was a nut. They already see that with Ron Paul, so you folks can just go back to your basements and weave 9/11 conspiracies now, because it’s all over.

Paul’s getting plenty of support from conservatives from both parties…that’s why that party-change link is there. People from both ‘parties’ are seeing the big picture and aren’t being fooled by their propaganda anymore. Further a large portion of the country want someone of integrity in the office, someone who actually represents the original intent of the country.

And Ron Paul isn’t running on conspiracies. He has dismissed them publically. What more do you want…for him to chase away voters?

Sure some conspiracy folk are drawn to him for the wrong reasons, but all candidates draw folk who vote for them for the wrong reasons. So what? You vote for candidates based on issues, character, and voting record…not by peer pressure. Right?”

Ron Paul is running away from conspiracy theorists? Which explains why he appears on the Alex Jones show.

…That doesn’t even make any sense. What does that mean?

I am a small-l libertarian. The L is capitalized for aesthetic reasons.

I’m a libertarian Republican. I’d never join the Libertarian Party because they’re all obsessed with marijuana and the Patriot Act. Don’t you think there are more important issues, like, oh, say, dismantling the nanny state!? Potheads.

The real political derby, as this site is so aptly named, is, however, found in comparing Ron Paul to SeaBiscuit. Although bred from champion constitutional lines, his performance
and potential were vastly underrated until those who really understood him and cared passionately enough, invested in him their talents, ingenuity, and meager resources. Against all odds, he rose from obscurity to win an unprecedented string of victories; the most notable one against the big-money backed champion of the East Coast, War Admiral.(Any guesses who that applies to in this comparison?)

My question back at #32 about how Ron Pauls’ win could happen unforeseen in this straw poll, over the top threes combined percentages, is still waiting for an answer. Are they betting on War Admiral, or are they hoping their influence will keep SeaBiscuit from ever running on the same track.

I can sympathize with ThatLibertarianGuys’ (TLG)embarrassment (#39) for being in anyway associated with Ron Paul. The shallow depth of his analysis, and the whiny tone of his contempt clearly indicate that the smallness of his(l)consonant is not the only issue to him for which size matters!

And Ron Paul isn’t running on conspiracies. He has dismissed them publically. What more do you want…for him to chase away voters?

Sure some conspiracy folk are drawn to him for the wrong reasons, but all candidates draw folk who vote for them for the wrong reasons. So what? You vote for candidates based on issues, character, and voting record…not by peer pressure. Right?

No. I’m scared of anti-Semitism, 9/11 Truthers, Chemtrail freaks and people who think that 9/11, the USS Cole, the WTC bombings of ‘93, the Madrid bombings and the London bombings were all products of a hoax.

I feel bad for Ron Paul. I like him. But he has a penchant for organizing the freaks of the political world into one tent. That’s not his fault — but it is reality.

Again, he can’t win the nomination in the Republican primary because he LACKS SUPPORT AMONG REPUBLICANS. Look at his home page — there’s an advertisement featured prominently to change your party affiliation to vote for him!

It ain’t happenin’!

“Ron Paul’s supporters are the best argument against a Ron Paul victory.” What? Scared of freedom?

Get it straight. According to history, the Founding Fathers were weird. In fact, the original concept of this country, freedom, is weird. Thus, I am glad Ron Paul and his supporters appear weird…we actually want freedom…with all the pros and cons that come with it.

Others, though, keep compromising freedom for security, compassion, etc. Mind you, they force everyone else to pay for their compromise…because they don’t want to do it by themselves.

Anyway, we’ve compromised a free nation into just another mediocre imperialistic country. Oh, we are good at it, but even the best of imperialistic nations are mediocre civilizations. And, per history, we all know what imperialism leads to (Egypt, Germany, UK, Rome, ol’ Israel, Ottoman, etc.).

And what really did we sell out for? What does the ‘greatest nation ever’ give us? A great standard of living? On paper maybe, but the reality is that inflation and immoral usury practices typically have both parents working their entire lives with nothing but debt to show for it.

It is ‘normal’ to be self-indentured slaves. Only the ‘weird’ get out of debt and create wealth…only the weird seek true freedom.

The ironic thing is that most of the fears that people have about freedom are solved better in a free society than in what we have today.

Politicians will always be trying to get us to compromise freedom for something. It is up to us to remember what freedom truly brings.

Like Democrats, neo-cons overtax the people so they can overspend on foreign and domestic programs that make politicians and those that pay them off extremely wealthy.

Liberals and Neo-cons (basically the same thing) overspend on foreign and domestic programs. Oh, they pretend to disagree on issues. Whenever the media is distracting us with fake disagreements (which is all the time), libs and neos are working together to wreck the nation (e.g., erasing the borders).

Conservatives, Republicans, and Libertarians (basically the same thing) do not overspend on foreign and domestic programs.

There are VERY FEW true conservatives…further, Ron Paul’s consistently conservative voting record makes him very rare.

You decide.

Whodat say Libertarians may be passionate
(but, very, very lonely…)

Al Qeada Is A Myth-click here

(Answer: Yes.)

That’s nothing but rhetoric. Crappy populist rhetoric at that.