Comments on: 2008 Power Rankings: October 13th, 2007

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By: AndDru1

AndDru1 — Wed, 17 Oct 2007 16:52:43 +0000

I agree with points 1 & 2, and I could see 3 happening (but not on Huck’s watch). I’m obviously not as knowledgable about this as you, but while the revenue would remain constant, from my understanding, the average American would pay less taxes, because the Fair Tax cuts through alot of the wasteful bureaucracy that is our current tax system. I know alot of you Libertarians would like a really small government, and I honestly respect that, but even you would have to say the fair tax is a feasable step in the right direction.

By: BoruJudasDedrich

BoruJudasDedrich — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 20:08:22 +0000

The FairTax doesn’t increase cost of living. As the cost of things increases by X%, your paycheck increases by X%.

I studied the FairTax extensively…even read the book (unbiased book, I’m sure).

What the book doesn’t say is:

1. A massive black market will open up.

2. Lots o’ people will stop spending at first: out of fear and to try to save/pay off debt. I know I would. I wouldn’t spend a dime on ‘non-essentials’.

3. Lots of ‘underground’ people wouldn’t get those gov’ment checks every month. ‘So what’, you say? Well they ain’t gonna take that…instead they will resort to even MORE criminal activity (see number 1).

4. The FairTax revenue would be the same as the income tax revenue. AND THE INCOME TAX REVENUE IS WRONG TO BEGIN WITH!!! It is overtaxation. Replacing it with ANYTHING is still as wrong. It’s like saying “Could you please kick my right nut instead of my left?”

By: Shmen

Shmen — Tue, 16 Oct 2007 00:27:34 +0000

Certainly I’d want to hurt the IRS and their army of bureaucrats.
… speaking of Reaganomics… I heard something the other day that made me laugh. Remember “Tear down this wall!” … I think Duncan Hunter and Tancredo missed that incident. Hunter, I believe is looking for campaign support from defense contractors – but I think Tancredo actually hates immigrants. He blames them for EVERYTHING. Hey man, we’re ALL immigrants.

By: AndDru1

AndDru1 — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 20:39:29 +0000

Settle down there Shmen, the cost of the TV would in all liklihood go down. The Fair Tax elimates all the taxes for those who make the TV (except the tax when they buy the materials), and for those who sell it. Plus, you would have more money to spend, since you wouldn’t be giving so much of it to the government. And it’s not another 30% even on the sales tax. The average American would be paying less taxes, and everyone knows that Reaganomics work. Tax cuts stimulate economic growth. Plus this takes the heavy burden off the middle class, who would rather save their money for a kid’s college fund, then send it to Uncle Sam. The only people the Fair Tax hurts are the IRS.

By: Shmen

Shmen — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:54:37 +0000

Geeze, if you want Huck to move up, tell him to drop his ridiculous “fair tax” proposal. I’m not a pimp or a drug dealer, but I don’t think I could afford a flat screen tv if I had to pay another 30% on top of it. Can anyone think of a better way to stunt economic growth? I don’t even think hillary could!

By: BoruJudasDedrich

BoruJudasDedrich — Mon, 15 Oct 2007 17:11:19 +0000

“Numbers are a tricky thing.”

I agree. I’m a Ron Paul supporter and am happy that he won so many straw polls, online polls, dominates online, etc., but I don’t sit on my duff thinking “Okay, he’s got it in the bag.”

The mainstream media’s polls don’t fool me for a second. They are clearly trying to create a perception of who will win this election (as they have always done). Most people are either gullible, apathetic, or sellouts allowing the ruse to succeed. And worst this ruse is one in which voting will mean nothing.

And yes, I am talking MAJOR conspiracy. Something I don’t take lightly.

I can’t believe there is no papertrail…no IDs…so much evidence of voter fraud in the past with narely the people batting a eye.

I guess they just don’t care. As long as they have their job, Grey’s Anatomy, and the Cheesecake Factory, they don’t want to rattle their cages.

By: TL

TL — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 17:09:19 +0000

Jason,

I think you may want to change the arrow on Rudy. Due to the change in rankings, change of momentum, and the polls, it clearly should now be pointing up.

By: AndDru1

AndDru1 — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:48:54 +0000

You have people? I wish I had people… I’ll see what I can do…

By: Jason Wright, Editor

Jason Wright, Editor — Sun, 14 Oct 2007 01:02:53 +0000

Definitely. Have his people call my people

By: AndDru1

AndDru1 — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 23:35:47 +0000

I never suggested that you, as an individual, had any bias towards Mike Huckabee. I know at previous times you have had some very good things to say about him. The same cannot be said for some of your colleagues. These power rankings were simply the straw that broke the camel’s back.

My frustration deals more with FNC, than with you guys anyway…

Huck does need to raise more money, and has taken deliberate steps toward doing so.

If I can get you an exclusive interview with Huck or a high ranking official in his camp, will you take it?

By: Jason Wright, Editor

Jason Wright, Editor — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:59:02 +0000

AndDru1, fair point on the other poll, but I think we’d all agree that you can read almost anything into any poll. Numbers are a sneaky thing.

As for your contention that PD has some Huckabee bias, well that’s just silly. We’ve taken shots at EVERY campaign when merited. And not long ago I had this to say in the Power Rankings:

“The only person not surprised by Huckabeeâ€™s showing in the straw poll is Huckabee himself. Finishing second, while only spending $58 per vote, is a terrific showing for someone the media has been considering an also-ran from Day One. Surely Giulianiâ€™s decision not to participate helped, but so have his stellar showings in the debates. If there is an argument to be made for so many debates so early, Huckabee is it. But he would be the only argument for so many debates so early. (And there is no argument, period, for having Chris Matthews or Keith Olbermann hosting debates no matter how early they are.) (previous ranking: #5)”

Do a search on the site for “Huckabee” and you’ll find more of the same.

I understand you’re a Huck guy, we all get it, but the “woe is us” thing doesn’t fly. Tell your guy to win some straw polls, raise more money and hit double digits in the national polls, I guarantee his coverage here and elsewhere will improve.

By: Troy La Mana

Troy La Mana — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:40:26 +0000

I expected the numbers to fade after the announcement bump. We’ll see how this quarter goes.

By: AndDru1

AndDru1 — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:38:18 +0000

Why is my comment being moderated? My other 5 posts weren’t today, how does this work?

By: AndDru1

AndDru1 — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:35:00 +0000

Jason, I typed this once and my network messed up, so here’s the shorter and more irritated version.

Huckabee was impressive in the debate. I thought he was the 3rd best performer behind Mitt and Rudy. His not being as impressive as the aforementioned candidates isn’t surprising as he recieved 6 min. less time to get his views across, and was at least on one occasion, continuously interupted by a rude moderator.

I do not dismiss anyone’s Q3 fundraising numbers. Paul’s numbers have consistantly been impressive, yet Huckabee has consistantly out polled Ron.

Huckabee has 3X more support than Ron Paul.

I looked into the Rasmussen Poll you were reffering to. The Poll I was reffering to was the latest Gallup Poll. While the two polls may seem contradictory on the surface, they’re not. The Rasmussen Poll is critically flawed in that it doesn’t take into account voters who have either not heard of a candidate or have not formed a solid opinion of him yet. This poll does, http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=28939 , and Huckabee’s unfavorable rating is at 9%, much lower than the above mentioned 34%.

Fox News and Political Derby, are two of my favorite sources to recieve my political news. They both however are critically flawed in that the neither of them has accurately and sufficiently report the advances in the Huckabee campaign. There is either a media bias against him, or a media ignorance about him.

As the Guiliani supporter and the Romney supporter have mentioned above, he’s gonna be on the ticket with or without your support. I like you and your site (as I’ve said many times), but clearly this site has under reported the support for his campaign.

By: Peter Porcupine

Peter Porcupine — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 22:00:05 +0000

Yo! Ease up on Mitt! Why a down arrow when he kept the same ranking?

And please remember – his personal donations are all PRMARY donations, leaving his actual fundraising all loaded up to take on Hilary, when the others would be scrambing. If you GOT $500 million, what’s 10 or 20 here and there?

Huck is a strong second for me – and it will be a Romney/Huckabee ticket in 2008!

By: Jason Berry

Jason Berry — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:59:13 +0000

Their rankings are crap.

By: Jason Wright, Editor

Jason Wright, Editor — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:38:58 +0000

AndDru1, I hate to contradict you, but you’re simply wrong on the question of unfavorables. According to Rasmussen, only John McCain has HIGHER unfavorables among GOP faithful.

“Huckabee is viewed favorably by 43% and unfavorably by 34% by the GOP faithful. Of the leading candidates, only McCain attracts more negative reviews from Republican votersâ€”the Arizona Senator is viewed unfavorably by 36%.”

By: Jason Wright, Editor

Jason Wright, Editor — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:37:05 +0000

Troy La Mana, Thompson’s numbers have actually faded the last month. (according to RCP averages) The fundraising was good, I grant you that, but some suggest that’s a result of low-hanging fruit after he finally announced. Q4 will be a much better gauge.

By: Jason Wright, Editor

Jason Wright, Editor — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:31:40 +0000

AndDru1, do you believe Huckabee stood out in any way in that last debate? And do you dismiss Paul’s superior Q3 fundraising numbers? He raised 5 times as much as Huckabee.

By: Troy La Mana

Troy La Mana — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 20:21:39 +0000

Pray tell how does Rudy take over first if his momentum is falling but Fred’s continues to rise? People forget that fundraising was for 1/3 of the last quarter.

I’m not worried, Fred will regain the #1 spot that he should still have.

By: TL

TL — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:50:36 +0000

It’s starting to look like a Giuliani/Huckabee ticket.

By: AndDru1

AndDru1 — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 19:17:06 +0000

Are you aware that Mike Huckabee has the lowest unfavorable rating among Republicans? Of coarse not, they haven’t told you…

Are you aware that Mike Huckabee is polling 3rd in Iowa behind Mitt Romney and Fred Thompson (ahead of McCain and Guiliani)? Of coarse not, they haven’t told you…

Are you aware that Huckabee is polling at 7% nationally (only two percent behind Romney)? Of coarse not, they haven’t told you…

Are you aware that both Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich say that Huckabee is the Republican candidate with the most potential? Of coarse not, they haven’t told you…

Are you aware that the famous Rocker and hunter Ted Nugent is a Huckabee supporter? Of coarse not, they haven’t told you…

Are you aware that Ron Paul is still at a measley 2% nationally, yet political derby has him in a virtual tie with Huckabee? Of coarse not, they haven’t told you…

I really don’t know why the news media hasn’t picked up on Mike Huckabee, but at first they dismissed him, and now their attacking him, makes you wonder doesn’t it…

By: AndDru1

AndDru1 — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:58:58 +0000

Dan Pearlstein of the Washington Post had this to say about Huckabee’s last debate performance and the news medias’s (i.e. http://www.politicalderby.com )coverage of his candidacy.

“Judged by who can offer a serious approach to economic policy, the hands-down winner in the Republican race so far is Huckabee, who combines intelligence, candor and comfortable familiarity with the issues and a practical approach anchored in solid conservative beliefs.

If only the political press were as impressed with the quality of a candidate’s program as with his name recognition, it would be Huckabee, not Thompson, who was energizing the Republican contest.”

By: AndDru1

AndDru1 — Sat, 13 Oct 2007 18:53:56 +0000

Mike Huckabee’s response to Dan Bartlet (The former White House Official):

“My last name has never opened doors for me because it’s not the name of a prominent, wealthy, or heralded political family, but the Bible says that “a GOOD name is more to be desired than great riches,” and my name represents the sacrifice, hard work, and old fashioned discipline that my Dad gave me when he didn’t have the education, wealth, or position to give me anything else. It’s a name I wear proudly–not just for myself, but all those who like me have fought their way beyond poverty to live and love the American dream.”