Religious right may go outside GOP if Rudy nominated
Posted on October 1st, 2007 at 9:37 am by David Kaiser, EditorAn article on Salon.com is reporting that a “powerful group of conservative Christian leaders decided Saturday at a private meeting in Salt Lake City to consider supporting a third-party candidate for president if a pro-choice nominee like Rudy Giuliani wins the Republican nomination.”
The leaders of this brilliant strategy seem to have forgotten the fact that historically, third-party candidates have done little more than guarantee a win for the opposition. Many point to the campaign of Ross Perot as the reason Bill Clinton was able to defeat George H.W. Bush in 1992. Many felt that the presence of Ralph Nader on the ballot in Florida cost Al Gore the 2000 presidential election.
But of course, it seems the conservative Christian right appears to be considering biting off their own nose to spite their face.
What’s that I hear? Oh, that would be the Democratic candidates, laughing and high-fiving each other.
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The real threat is from the middle. If we nominate someone like Fred, Bloomberg will run as an independent, and more importantly he would have more money that either major political party.
These Christian leaders are idiots!!! The only worry about abortion issues, not about terroist attacks.
Let them go that way and when Madam Hillary is their President and we get attacked agian who will they blame??
perhaps it is time for the religious right (and the party that panders to them) to realize how insignificant their hatred movement really is.
it will also help garauntee a Democrat victory, which means that national security will once again be a priority instead of a political tool
Toby,
Upon what are you basing your label of “hatred movement”?
My political views would certainly be called “religious right” by practically anyone. Last time I checked, I’m a pretty non-hating, loving kind of guy.
First lets establish that they’re
Not Religious and
Not Right
To demonstrate this recall how many went to Washington to call for an attack on Iran
Do Christians urge unilateral war?
Is that right?
Ok - so what are they then?
Neocons with religious followers
seeking to keep in power
someone who will continue beating the drumbs of war
Read up on Leo Strauss, Univ. of Chicago
As for any 3rd Party winning an election
It has happened before
but the odds are miniscule of it happening again
Shigh. didn’t we HAVE this split already?
In 200, GWB was threatened by Pat Buchanan, who threatened to leave the GOP and take all his Followers with him. Dubya said - don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
He left, founded his Constitution Party, and Dubya was elected regardless.
How many times are these same guys going to huff of the stage and found doomed third parties?
Bruce, when has a third party candidate won a Presidential election?
The closest to it happening was Theodore Roosevelt in 1912, he finished in second, ahead of Republican William Taft, but was crushed by Woodrow Wilson in the electoral college.
Perhaps he means Lincoln? He won a 4-way race, and was only the second real Republican candidate.
This whole post has missed the point. The American people overwhelming are pro-life. Yet the two major parties have basically told them it doesn’t matter what they want. If people are willing to form their own party to ensure that their candidate stands for what they want, then more power to them. That’s what a republic is supposed to be about, you vote for people who represent your interests. Why should we let them decide what we think, aren’t they the very government that is supposed to be of the people and for the people? It’s not by voting for the candidate that represents you that you are making a mistake, it’s by voting for someone who doesn’t represent you. That’s what we’ve done for years, and now we’re more divided than ever. The American public, and the issues should decide who get’s elected, and what the public policies are, not political consultants and party bosses.
Pro-choice. Pro-life. Pro-this. Pro-that.
It’s like being either pro-dog or pro-cat.
Point is, whatever anybody says, no change
Will come on abortion. And, that is that!
My wisdom comes from having three daughters
And, a baby-boomer, college-grad wife.
So, my experience first-hand is: We are pro-choice in crisis, while in our hearts, pro-life.
I KNOW no politician CAN tell women what to do!
They will find a way around any, all decrees.
Pass laws which stop abortion, and women will
Return to alleys & backrooms of death, desease.
I’m a Christian, but no public Bible-thumper;
I will let Him judge what I can’t change.
I’ll let fools with but 1 or 2 lithmus tests
Do what they will, and even to act strange.
Whodat in Texas
Father of Daughters
Whodat, good to hear from you. I was in Texas this weekend, quite a nice state you have there
Glad to hear you enjoyed yourself.
Hope all the natives were friendly to you
Hope all our lovely ladies gave you a smile
And, you enjoyed our food and hospitality, too!
Whodat wif a Welome Mat
Pro-Life Pro-Choice
Here’s a vision
Imagine a society in which abortion is perfectly legal
and in that society no mother or father
would ever even consider abortion an option
Life is treated as sacred
and teenagers are taught by their parents
not to conceive a new life
without providing a father and a mother
to shepard that life to maturity
Imagine a world in which we don’t accept saying
‘what can we do? they’ll do it anyway’
but rather we teach them a better way
Imagine
I do
It’s not like this is the only issue that the two major candidates in the two major parties differ from the American public. How many of you would like to get rid of the IRS and all its unnessecary taxes? Most of us would… yet they ignore us. Let’s vote for somebody that would work for us, not just use us to get elected. Besides if Mike Huckabee is the nominee, Republicans won’t have to worry about getting the support of Dobson and his followers, they’ll be first the first to the voters box.
As a servant of the Biblical Christ, it is impossible for me to support any leader who won’t promote the sanctity of life, let alone one who doesn’t recognize that marriage between one man and one woman is ordained by God, and that any other union(s) is corrupt and degenerate. These moral issues are weightier than any other consideration, because the deterioration of our country is almost complete. We will always have wars and rumors of wars, but if we don’t honor God, we won’t long have a country worth keeping.